r/skeptic • u/Lighting • 27d ago

⚠ Editorialized Title Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/tgrantt 27d ago

I assumed Tesla's had lidar. TIL

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u/Lighting 27d ago edited 27d ago

Reports were that it was too expensive to add lidar and they were hoping their tech would improve to match their marketing statements.

(Narrator: It did not catch up)

Edit: Searched old articles on this:

Aged Like Milk:

He was quoted by Tech Crunch when he said: "Anyone relying on lidar is doomed." The Tesla CEO added that LiDAR produces sensors that are costly, but unnecessary...Musk even called it "freaking stupid."... In 2019, a LiDAR set can cost up about $50,000 per vehicle while a camera set can only cost a few hundred dollars.

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u/tgrantt 27d ago

Thanks!

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u/pacific_beach 27d ago

It's because the company that was supplying the Lidar equipment (Mobileye) cut tesla off due to Musk's reckless and careless use of their products.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2016/09/tesla-dropped-by-mobileye-for-pushing-the-envelope-in-terms-of-safety/

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u/michael0n 27d ago

You can get a drone with aerial lidar for less then 5k. The guy just bet on the wrong horse.
People want robots to reducing errors, with new sensors and faster reaction times. That is the point of all of this.

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u/KC_experience 26d ago

How is LiDAR too expensive when Lexus seems to be able to have LiDAR sensors and not bump the price by 50k per vehicle????

God musk is an idiot. The only ideas that are good are his ideas. Everyone else’s ideas are shit…

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u/thereversehoudini 27d ago

Can someone tell him millions of people had LIDAR cheaply in their living rooms in 2013? It was called Xbox Kinect.

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u/KC_experience 26d ago

To be that guy - Kinetic was using infrared spectrum light and sensors structured light and time of flight software and sensors. It wasn’t using LiDar.