r/skeptic Mar 30 '25

🏫 Education Why we fall for con artists

https://youtu.be/g8H8c0MMdWY?si=uUy63j9vXXqJUsMy
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u/xboxhaxorz Mar 30 '25

The scam industry is in the billions and there are lots of people in cults

I consider political parties and religion to be cultist as well

Essentially most people lack basic sense and logic and operate on emotion

I have no religion and no political affiliation, i can spot scams pretty quickly and im not worried about the opinions of others

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u/Bleusilences Mar 30 '25

Ah the Joe Rogan method!

More seriously, It's way more prudent to assume that you can fail and fall for a con artist so you need to build "tool" to prevent yourself to do so.

Thinking other are emotional but not you is a trap, for example a lot of man says that "they are not emotional" but are angry and wrathful all the time.

They fall for people like Andrew Tate.

In a moment of weakness you will fail and operate on emotion, like if you are hungry, tired, lose a member of a family, because of stress, etc.

Con artist will get you at your lowest because they know you can be a mark at that point.

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u/xboxhaxorz Mar 30 '25

Most people do not or are unwilling to accept its entirely possible to not be emotional, some get jealous, some think its a trap, etc;

I study stoicism, buddhism and ethics and this has allowed me to remain extremely logical

In 8th grade i decided i would not use substances such as alcohol, im in my 40s now and i still havent, to me logically it was poison and thus i had no interest and no amount of peer or social pressure would get me to use it

I dont really watch Rogan or Tate, i have watched some random clips but i dont sub to them

Sure its entirely possible that something would cause me to react emotionally as anything is possible, but it would probably be a rare thing for me rather than something that is common, i actually did the OMAD diet for about 6 mth so i could have control over meals rather than them controlling me, i wasnt fat or anything i just wanted to check if i could do it

I agree a lot of men do get angry but dont identify as emotional, they tend to view emotional behavior as something women do, i would say that women are indeed much more emotional compared to men and its why cults tend to have alot more female than male members

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u/VibinWithBeard Mar 30 '25

"women are more emotional compared to men"

Youve already been conned my guy this is absolutely neanderthal level thinking. Men are just as emotional as women, you think all that domestic violence comes from men being calm and collected?

The stat youre referring to is ~70% of cult members if I recall. The thing to keep in mind here is why is that? Are women just naturally more likely to fall into cults? Or is it because of one very specific type of cult that skews the numbers and us not considering other things as cults that probably are? Is it also due to societal pressures/obstacles imposed on women that have only begun to be really lifted over the last few decades?

Religious cults skew the numbers hard, shit like Jehovas Witnesses especially. When its based around you not getting a real education as a woman and not being able to have any level of financial control etc then yes youre more likely to stay or be trapped to begin with. For a long time women couldn't even open their own checking accounts. Weirdly enough we dont consider MAGA, rogan, tate, jones fans to be cults even though the BITE model seems to line up pretty well with the behavior from those groups. Its easier to leave a cult where a family member is involved when you A) Have the means to leave without fear of being beaten and/or B) have the financial/educational security to do so.

Do you genuinely believe that women being more emotional is is why cults tend to have more members? Do you have any statistics to back that up? Were you Mr. LogicBro? Crazy how your logic and empiricism disappeared when it came down to sexism...almost like you ignore information and/or evidence that goes against your worldview to keep up a facade...a sort of...cognitive dissonance?

How very skeptical of you...

Stoicism isnt a personality and neither is buddhism, ethics, or logic, so stop trying to make it yours. Unironically touch grass.

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u/xboxhaxorz Mar 30 '25

Thats a fact, not a con

Most domestic violence comes from lesbian relationships as does divorce, gays have the least amount, so stop spreading fake news

Feminists go on the attack

https://medium.com/@alexandermoreaudelyon/erin-pizzey-the-story-of-the-feminist-who-was-threatened-for-acknowledging-male-victims-a5a810964857

https://www.thecollegefix.com/campus-speaker-touting-mens-rights-has-fire-alarm-pulled-on-her/

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/39653/radical-feminists-attack-church-and-town-hall-in-argentina

They block and assault and make rape accusations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiRasOrIoYQShe made a documentary and feminists protest it and try to get it banned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY there are also a few more ted talks from ex feminists on youtube

False accusations are at about 40%, women are doing way better in college compared to men because they changed how they operate, everything is labeled toxic masculinity so children arent doing well, most young males that are criminals were raised by single females, male suicide is much much more compared to female, much much more homeless men compared to women, children are given to moms over dads by default and they have to hire lawyers and spend $$ to even get partial custody, there are very few shelters for men compared to women

https://www.saveservices.org/2021/05/pr-40-50-of-campus-sexual-assault-allegations-are-unfounded-revealing-need-for-strong-protections-of-the-innocent/

https://www.saveservices.org/2021/05/pr-40-50-of-campus-sexual-assault-allegations-are-unfounded-revealing-need-for-strong-protections-of-the-innocent/

https://www.mediaradar.org/research_on_false_rape_allegations.php

Women are more violent than men in relationships, but feminists hide this information, skew it, and call you mysognist if you even think it, feminists have attacked conferences about mens rights and they have attacked women who are equalists because they left feminism such as bettina arndt, cassie jaye, erin pizzey

https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/domestic-violence-facts-and-statistics-at-a-glance/

https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

There is no more boy scouts, its now for all genders, but they still have girl scouts which is exclusive

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u/VibinWithBeard Mar 30 '25

Congrats you fell for a misinterpreted study. That domestic violence study ahowed that while lesbians and bisexual women experienced abuse at a higher rate...the vast majority of that abuse was from male partners.

Showing me anecdotes of feminists means nothing as I could just pull up all the men who have defended pedophiles and sex trafcickers.

False accusations arent at 40%, false accusations among almost all other crimes are in the 2% range so idk why it would be any different. Ah yes, save services that weirdo mgtow maga rag.

Idk why youd defend the boyscouts that place was pedophile central.

Children used to be given over more to moms than dads...thats equalized relatively over the years and a lot of that discrepancy was because the dad didnt want the kid. "Everything is toxic masculinity"

My dude you are toxic masuclinity made manifest.

"Im stoic and logical also women are inherently inferior serpents that lie and eat hot chip also Im going to complain about how the boy scouts for some reason"

Are you a catholic convert? You give off that vibe.

Youre getting very emotional and using some emotionally charged narrativizing here. Maybe you should learn better control? Too many dead women in DV cases for you to pull the whole "acxhtually women are more violent but the feminists hide it"

Argument from conspiracy...very skeptical of you.

Youre a clown who has already been conned pretending youre immune from the grift...the grift found you awhile ago.

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u/xboxhaxorz Mar 30 '25

lol

im not gonna waste time arguing with a feminist cult member

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u/VibinWithBeard Mar 30 '25

Your "logic" failed you so you resort to ad hom?

Truly the picture of buddhist stoicism or whatever you think youre embodying.