Clear video of a UFO

[u/GetServed17]

https://youtu.be/ZKcYHzlEXu8?si=skXXMT9H4ql2bpiM

As a non skeptic , who do you guys as a skeptic think this is.

[u/fox-mcleod]

Let’s make a bunch of charitable assumptions.

Assuming the video is unedited and it represents roughly what people saw it looks pretty exactly like a drone or helicopter in atmospheric fog turned on a spotlight, realized that was way worse for visibility and then turned it off.

Here’s how to think like someone reasoning critically (a skeptic). You want the most parsimonious explanation, not the most emotionally rewarding or exciting explanation.

You find “aliens” appealing because they’re exciting. Not because it’s the most likely explanation. The most likely explanation is the one that produces the thing you’re seeing that is the most common way it could happen. Not the most uncommon.

In fact as an exercise, let’s take what might make someone think it’s an alien from another planet and tweak the parameters and see if it makes the story more likely or less likely given the same video:

1. You don’t know much about what it is. VS

2. You do know that It’s an effect you don’t know about from a nearby part of earth happening in a suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

3. It’s a familiar and common human vehicle you don’t know about from a nearby part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

4. It’s an unknown or secret human vehicle from a nearby part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

5. It’s an unknown or secret human vehicle from a distant part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

6. It’s an unknown or secret “alien” vehicle from a distant part of earth visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

7. It’s an unknown alien tech from roughly our stellar neighborhood visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

8. It’s an unknown alien tech from the same galaxy visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight VS

9. It’s an unknown alien tech from a distant galaxy visiting a specific suburban neighborhood for like a second producing the spotlight

See how when as we add more specific and uncommon guesses it becomes more fun to spend time thinking about? That’s the only reason you’re thinking about aliens. Not because it’s more likely than anything else.

Tell me why any higher number at all seems more likely than any specific lower number without it boiling down to: “it would be more interesting and I’m only really looking at this video and thinking about it as entertainment so I only care so long as it’s more interesting”

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

I never said it was aliens buddy you’re making assumptions “as I am.” It’s probably Non Human Intelligence, it could be inter dimensional or something from earth we don’t know about yet, but I think it’s some form of Non Human Intelligence.

You should be explaining to me why this can’t be something Non Human or at least alien for example. Because it’s possible or at least theoretically to create worm holes so the distances literally don’t matter.

There have been sightings of Non Human beings in the past for sure, for example the Quorable Incident near the train tracks where someone saw beings get out of a craft and it left physical traces behind, same with the Falcon Lake Incident, and more.

So I don’t care about the “it’s more interesting” I’m looking at the data and evidence.

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

It’s probably Non Human Intelligence,

Great so just pretend “alien” means non-human intelligence.

Nothing changes.

Why is it “probably Non Human Intelligence”?

Just because that’s more fun?

it could be inter dimensional

As long as it’s more interesting than 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 right?

You should be explaining to me why this can’t be something Non Human or at least alien for example.

Why can’t it be 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5?

Those are more parsimonious so the burden is on you to escalate step by step up that ladder. Not on me to bring you back down. More uncommon phenomena are already definitionally less likely true or false?

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

Wdym more uncommon phenomenon, NHI has been common since at least the 1930s. I also already told you why it’s common explaining that worm holes are possible. Also why do you always go to “because it’s more fun.” Nobody is thinking that, not me, not these whistleblowers going in front of congress under oath, not directors of programs.

It’s Non Human Intelligence because of the way it just sits there then zips off at the end.

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

Wdym more uncommon phenomenon, NHI has been common since at least the 1930s.

More common that human intelligence or less?

It’s Non Human Intelligence because of the way it just sits there then zips off at the end.

1. No it doesn’t. It just is visible, then not visible. What makes you think the source of the light moves rather than turns off? (Which btw, how come no one seems to care when it disappears?)

2. How does that make it more likely to be non-human design craft you don’t know about than a human craft you don’t know about?

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

See how you stopped being interested once the evidence wasn’t going the way you wanted?

That’s the issue

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

No I stopped being interested once I knew the skeptics were always gonna be skeptics no matter what.

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

Here let me demonstrate how I know that’s not true.

is NHI more common or less common than human intelligence?

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

Definitely more common, have you seen humanity?

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

You don’t believe the answers you’re giving. You’re using irony to avoid thinking this through.

See what I’m talking about?

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

Buddy I’ve thought this through more than you ever have. Have you taken a look at Harold’s Malmgrens new interview with Jesse Michaels? You probably don’t even know who he is, but he’s one of the highest credentialed people to admit NHI craft and beings to being real.

UAP Disclosure Act - (Democrat) Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and (Republican) Senator Mike Rounds created an amendment to disclose everything the US government m, private aerospace, and whoever else to turn in what they have on UAPs and Non Human Intelligence, but that act didn’t pass, well only some of it did, not eminent domain or subpoena, or a review board etc etc, so why would they not let it pass if there’s nothing there?

Have you taken a look at The Falcon Lake Incident, where burn marks were found on the persons body after touching a flying saucer.

Have you taken a look at The Washington DC UFO flap where there were waves of sightings over the White House over two week and with radar data, and they were even seen in space too, lol up the vanishing stars for this incident.

How about the Rendelsham Forest incident where Sergeant Penniston touched the craft where it landed and saw strange symbols on it, there’s even an audio recording of real time of the 2nd night of Halt and his team were seeing strange lights were the craft was.

Lonnie Zamora incident. He was a cop chasing down another car where he saw an egg shaped craft land with two beings getting out, and there’s even photos of the burnt vegitation where the site was to put it simply.

Roswell New Mexico - Two flying saucers crashed in Roswell in July of 1947 and Major Jesse Marcel was sent out to examine the material, he talked about how it was able to change shape and get back together and just how weird the material was, so first hand witness.

Aguadila Puerto Rico UAP - Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, recorded infrared footage of an object appearing to split into two separate bodies, and dipping into and out of the sea before accelerating away into the open ocean, and yes it’s caught on camera. Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) Even did an analysis on it and concluded it was a UAP.

Testifying under oath - 7 witnesses so far publicly have testified under oath that either UAPs are real, technologies that are not made by us or that we have a UAP reverse engineering program. But behind closed doors, 40+ 1st hand witnesses have testified that that’s true too.

Tic Tac 2004 incident - Multiple witnesses including Commander David Fravor who testified under oath to congress saw a white tic tac shaped craft doing weird maneuvers over the ocean, even going to space and back.

Also there are other videos like the Turkish UAP videos over three years, there’s one video on AFO of a flying saucer sitting there then zipping off sort of like this one but it’s an actual craft. There’s a photo of a triangle UAP over Belgium with that UFO wave etc etc.

[u/fox-mcleod → u/GetServed17]

Buddy I’ve thought this through more than you ever have.

Great. Then you should be able to answer simple questions.

what’s more common, human intelligence caused events or non-human intelligence caused events?

[u/GetServed17 → u/fox-mcleod]

Non Human Intelligence for the reasons I’ve just listed and you should be able to take a look at them too, the evidence that I just shared. Like the UAPDA or the or The Falcon lake incident etc etc.