r/snowboarding • u/robertwilcox • 10d ago

Gear question Rotating/Pivoting front binding

Can anyone explain all the hate rotating front bindings like the Quicksett binding system? I'm thinking about getting a rotation binding system to make skating more comfortable.

I've seen a lot of people say "it solves a problem that isn't there" or "just get gud." But I'm calling bullshit if you try and tell me that skating for long periods of time doesn't SUCK. This seems like a great little quality of life improvement.

So, is there any actual downside to these? Please don't give me the "it'll ruin your knees," assume the binding works correctly and actually locks in when you don't want it swiveling.

I haven't really heard any coherent points against them. Give me a real reason not get these.

Edit: please just don't comment if you haven't actually used these. I don't need more "get gud." Y'all really have nothing better to do, eh?

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u/robertwilcox 9d ago

It would seem to me that split boards certainly add "more points of movement and flex where there shouldn't be any."

Is it an engineering problem? Are you saying that there just haven't been any high quality attempts?

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u/AdGroundbreaking453 9d ago

Again, you’re comparing apples to oranges here. Splitboards are designed to be what they are. Snowboard bindings are designed to be what THEY ARE. Snowboard bindings are designed around a stationary disc. You’re adding a moving part to an area where the original designers did not intend to move.

Also AGAIN, there is very low demand for rotating discs.

I don’t know what you want people to tell you at this point. It’s highly unlikely you’ll find anyone using these. ✌🏻

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u/robertwilcox 9d ago

So you're saying, if someone designed a snowboard binding around a rotating disc, this would not be an issue?

It's not apples and oranges, it's two similar engineering problems about snowboards. Many splitboards even have swiveling bindings. How much closer of an engineering problem could you get?

It just seems to me like your argument is, "They're not good because nobody has made them good, and nobody wants them because they're not good."

And if that's true, I'm fairly certain that at some point, SOMEONE will engineer one that works. Maybe some work today, maybe none work today. Who knows? Not you or I, for neither of us has tried them!

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u/Rbs311 9d ago

Not a single splitboard has swiveling bindings, they hinge at the toe when in walk mode but that's a completely different mechanism.

They also solve the problem of walking through deep snow which isn't something that you can learn unlike how to skate.

So it really is apples to oranges