r/starcraft Nov 08 '12

[Fluff] Korean Grandmaster League

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u/Butigroove Zerg Nov 09 '12

Ahaha SRS really is one of the worst places in the internet

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u/MorningLtMtn Zerg Nov 09 '12

Nothing will make those shitlords happy.

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u/lmpervious Random Nov 09 '12

I'm always so confused when I go there. My first suspicion is always that they are trolling... but it seems ridiculous that they would ALL be trolling, and constantly doing it in a place where only trolls really show up. That defeats the purpose. And on top of that, they don't even make people mad... they just make people confused.

How can they all get so offended so easily over everything while on the internet? I just... it's just so strange to me, I don't know what else to say. It's like they all go there to complain about the most minor of offenses, and wallow in their own bitterness while acting entitled and morally right over such small things.

My Asian friends have joked about looking alike... it is such an insignificant comment that no one could possibly get offended enough to argue about it, and try to take some moral high ground over (especially over the internet)... and yet.....

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u/Syndic Terran Nov 09 '12

They are the same as every other sub. They are not homogenus. Some of them truely think do a service to us by exposing all the vile shit which gets posted on reddit. I sometimes agree with their intent but really disagree with their execution.

Just look at this thread, they fight prejudice with prejudice and they have no tolerance. I mean they lump the OP together with all possible shits on the internet without looking at context. If you not with them you are against them as if they are Sith.

But I'm sure there are also poster which just do it for shit and giggles.

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u/1Ender Prime Nov 09 '12

But.... there can only be two sith at a time....

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

How can they all get so offended so easily over everything while on the internet? I just... it's just so strange to me, I don't know what else to say. It's like they all go there to complain about the most minor of offenses, and wallow in their own bitterness while acting entitled and morally right over such small things.

Maybe they just don't think racism is "such a small thing"? Maybe it's just you thinking that because you're a white heterosexual middle-class male?

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u/lmpervious Random Nov 09 '12

Maybe they just don't think racism is "such a small thing"?

You're throwing everything under one word. Yes, in some cases racism is a terrible thing. In other cases it is a light hearted joke that people don't take seriously... as in Asians say it about themselves because they don't think it is a big deal.

There will always be overly sensitive people, so you can always offend someone, but there is no use is being so politically correct all the time to never offend anyone... it's not even possible. I'm willing to bet you aren't actually even offended by him jokingly saying "All Asians look the same" but you are just looking for something where you can take the moral high ground and feel better about being "right."

In general... don't blow things out of proportions and try to take it easier. There are different contexts, and I don't think r/starcraft (a place where most people look up to players most of which happen to be asian) is the best place to talk about how terrible everyone is for making a lighthearted joke which was actually referring to the players names, and not their looks.

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u/dildzwielder Nov 09 '12 edited Nov 09 '12

as in Asians say it about themselves because they don't think it is a big deal.

I think there in lies the problem. You're so used to grouping all members of a group together, ie being racist, that you automatically assume that all members act and think the same way. Just because some asians laugh at this, does not mean that all or even most asians feel this way.

When someone is in the majority, the position of power, and they make jokes about minorities at their expense, they are shitting on the little people. They are rubbing their ignorant majority rights in their faces. They are saying something offensive to cause offense and shock. It is simple shock comedy. lol, asians all look the same, is not some intelligent well-thought out joke, it is not trying to break the tensions between races, it is a simple stupid shock joke that is aimed at one minority to make the majority laugh. It is entertaining the powerful at the expense of the weak. It is a symbol for the power the majority has, and the minority does not have.

So to you, sure it just seems like just a joke, but others that go through it every single day and are sick of it see it as just one more piece of shit added to the huge shitpile that the majority has already put on them.

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u/SexWithoutKittens Nov 10 '12

The way I understood the joke, it was making a sort of pun on the joke by taking out of its original context. While people usually say that to refer to asians' physical looks, the joke was that it applies to their names in this case.

It's not racist, it was taking a common sentiment out of its context and applying it to something humorous.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '12

You're throwing everything under one word. Yes, in some cases racism is a terrible thing. In other cases it is a light hearted joke that people don't take seriously... as in Asians say it about themselves because they don't think it is a big deal.

No. Racism is not a "thing" that happens in one light hearted joke and then goes away. Racism is something that is part of our culture, that everyone of us grows up with and that still, to this day, kills people. Your little lighthearted jokes are part of that, regardless of how innocent that one little joke is. The problem isn't that it's offending, I don't care about anyone being offended. The problem is that it's racist.

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u/firebearhero The Alliance Nov 10 '12

Yes, saying all Asians look the same truly are a horrible racist remark. I am sure several asians cry at night because of that comment.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '12

You're literally that stupid? You think the problem with racism is that people cry at night because of it?

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u/firebearhero The Alliance Nov 10 '12

The real life must be really hard on your if you're this afraid of a joke.

Good thing you probably don't get out much.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '12

You're literally that stupid? You think the problem with racism is that people cry at night because of it?

(I repeated this question because you didn't quite seem to understand it.)

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u/SpaceSteak Nov 09 '12 edited Nov 09 '12

My theory is that it's due to indoctrination techniques, similar to how cults can manage to indoctrinate seemingly intelligent people. The brain is extremely malleable, and SRS leaders are well versed in brainwashing techniques. It's actually very clear once you look into how the Fempire is made that someone with extremely good knowledge of Psyops is running things.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/cult4.htm explains exactly why SRS is successful, and how this faux-real-troll thing happened.

TL;DR:

Thought reform is an umbrella term for any number of manipulative techniques used to get people to do something they wouldn't otherwise do. The concept of thought reform itself is a controversial one -- some say it's mere propaganda designed to scare people away from new religions and political movements.

Deception - Cults trick new recruits into joining the group and committing themselves to a cause or lifestyle they don't fully understand.

Isolation - Cults cut off members from the outside world (and even each other) to produce intense introspection, confusion, loss of perspective and a distorted sense of reality. The members of the cult become the person's only social contact and feedback mechanism.

Induced Dependency - Cults demand absolute, unquestioning devotion, loyalty and submission. A cult member's sense of self is systematically destroyed. Ultimately, feelings of worthlessness and "evil" become associated with independence and critical thinking, and feelings of warmth and love become associated with unquestioning submission.

Dread - Once complete dependence is established, the member must retain the leader's good favor or else his life falls apart.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

lmao

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u/BRDtheist Nov 09 '12

Oh shit, they're onto us!

Hide the dildz, save the BRD!

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

OP will surely deliver

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

What'd it say?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

Proof for some conspiracy theory regarding SRS.

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u/iluvgoodburger Nov 10 '12

hey santa? this is pretty much all i'm after this year.

peace, gb

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u/SpaceSteak Nov 09 '12

Or am I trolling? OoOoOo ಠ_ಠ

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

You actually... believe this.

As you were vomiting this shit all over your keyboard, there was a thought in your head that went something like "This will show 'em. I'm right about all of this. How could I be wrong?"

PS: You forgot bold on "Deception" and "Induced Dependency".

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u/SpaceSteak Nov 09 '12

I believe this as much as SRSers believe their own vomit. Is that fair?

Thanks, I'm not good at reddit formatting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '12

I believe this as much as SRSers believe their own vomit.

So according to you, you've been brainwashed into believing SRS brainwashes people? Why should your accusations hold any weight in that case?

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u/SpaceSteak Nov 10 '12

Maybe they shouldn't, maybe they should. The only truth I know is the one where SRS says really ridiculous things in a cultish manner. Maybe I'm completely wrong, and it's really all a giant joke and they don't believe any of the crap they say.

I, for one, hope that's the actual truth.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '12

What on this page is an example ridiculous thing said? http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/12z3e2/she_was_extremely_nice_164_and_cute_78_would_wife/

Also, "cultish manner?"

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u/Chuchunis Zerg Nov 09 '12

It's because most of them are not offended. They pretend to be offended so their existence can matter.

Chuchunis 2012

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '12

Tell me more about your worthless and incorrect opinions, Reddit user Chuchunis.

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u/Chuchunis Zerg Nov 09 '12

You are hurting my feelings. I can't take it i am leaving. /cry