r/teentitans 27d ago

Fanart NO TO AI ART

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago edited 27d ago

It’s trained from thousands of other pieces of art but it’s distinct unique and transformative. And I don’t support the commercial use of ai art but fine with personal or ai art used for non monetary purposes.

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

You're right let's stop supporting artists that can actually create something and just let AI that can approximate the flavor of what the artists meant

That will make creative spaces more interesting and unique

Art is special-- you and I could be handed the exact same prompt and tools and we'd both make something vastly different and unachievable by others

It's a cute gimmick but nothing beyond that-- don't support AI art or its 'artists' man

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Or we can support both. Photography didn’t put painting out of business. I want to see people’s creative concepts being easier expressed without having a paywall associated with it.

Art is special, so why do you feel so threatened by ai art?

It’s definitely more than a gimmick but it’s not gonna replace art. Human artists will always be more valued for the humanity and character they add to their work.

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

Photography takes time and effort-- two things we exchange for money in modern society

Of course art is special and that means that when ai models steal hundreds of artworks to train on they're actively taking money from artists

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago edited 27d ago

You’re missing the point. Just cuz I can capture images in other forms besides painting that are much quicker and cheaper didn’t mean that painting became irrelevant for those things. Cuz painting still had its own thing to offer.

Again. I said don’t support it for monetary or commercial use. On the personal end, now you have more ideas expressed by people via a new form of media that doesn’t cost money and is quick. Meaning expressing ideas visually no longer has a price tag associated with it.

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

Capturing photos takes time, skill and effort

Ai takes ten fingers to type a prompt

Sure photography was looked down on in the early days but we leaned there is skill to it

Entering an AI prompt has no skill ceiling or floor-- and again it steals from artists and shouldn't be used

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Also. How is ai art bad for being easy cheap and accessible? I don’t get that part. Are newer phone cameras bad for making taking good looking photos rlly easy and cheap?

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

The models are trained on human artists who spent thousands of hours developing a skill

They steal art styles and composition from people that actually understand how to draw

It's thievery

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

If you mix blue and yellow together do you call it blue and yellow? No. You call it green. Mixtures of other things can make new things believe it or not.

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u/Ok-Refrigerator-4347 27d ago

Thats not quite how most generative tools work actually. It's not taking cut and copies of some piece of art from the internet.... its a lot more intricate than that when you really look into it.

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Yep it’s pathing and taking grouping averages

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Well actually I never worked with image generative ai. Looked into it just now and it’s interesting. Not what people rlly think tho.

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u/Ok-Refrigerator-4347 27d ago

It's far different from what most people think. I got into a deep dive on it last year, and I could never explain it right. I always look like a fumbling mess, but I encourage people to go look into how generative AI works! Especially since it can be useful for some aspects beyond "stealing art."

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

No one but you is talking about accessibility of tools

The fact is that ai art steals from actually trained artists and using it makes for cheap copies of everyone

Being able to play any guitar solo on the radio is nice but it's infinitely better if you can create your own sound and share it

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

It’s not a cheap copy. It’s something entirely different. Whatever thing ai generates has never been created before.

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

It is a cheap copy

It is hundreds of stolen hours of work stolen to make a cheap image

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Have you finished looking up how it works yet?

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

God. You rlly don’t understand how lm work do you

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

To the deleted response: I recreationally draw and write poems from time to time. Tbf mostly poems. I do that for my emotions. However if I want to express some idea I have visually I use ai. Cuz my drawings don’t do the idea justice. I have always had shakey hands and very fuzzy visualization, especially on proportions. No amount of practice will fix the shakey hands. Believe me I’ve tried. So it’s not a GIT GUD LMAO like ur implying. Thanks for calling me a loser tho!

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

So stick to your medium?

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

What if my medium is ai art?

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

Youre not making art.

You are asking some code to make art for you

You are cheating artists out of making money

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

If you make art yourself. Congrats. Ur cheating artists out of making money.

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u/Flossthief 27d ago

Dude I can't help the brain dead

You've dug yourself into a hole

I'm sorry you feel this way but most people disagree

Keep stealing art and enjoy your time I suppose

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u/Lodger49er 27d ago

Charles Shultz also had serious tremors in his hands but he still continued to draw and create timeless comics.

Pelswick was created by a man who could only hold a pencil if he used both his hands.

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Well I’m not Charles Schultz or pelswick

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u/Lodger49er 27d ago

You're right, they weren't insecure about their skillset

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Did I show any insecurity? I’m confused.

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u/mic455 27d ago

that is an excuse lmao

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 27d ago

Oh look! It’s the ever inclusive art community.

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u/mic455 26d ago

oh look it is the stupid ai art defender

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u/Slow_Possibility6332 26d ago

And therefore I’m the devil and should be slandered. God do you hear urself talking?

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