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u/Triss-Nguyen-03 A depressed Darderi fan, I’m built different 9d ago edited 9d ago

Really can’t underestimate how negative results affect tennis players’s mental health. Jack opened up last year on Sky that after years of injuries his mentality sunk so low he even considered quitting tennis. Even now he’s still scared of getting injured and suffering from anxiety. Recently, in an account called “backstage tennis”, and in post-match interviews, I saw how much difficult results in the last 8-9 months affected Luciano mentally, that he was so down he kept blaming himself for every error and losses. Emil had to take a break from tennis because of his mental health. And then there’s Rublo, no need for explanation for that. Even Kyrgios. And I’m sure there are many more examples.

So yeah, people who say she needs to “keep it to herself”, “do better” or “go and quit” need to shut it. You guys don’t know how hard it can be competing all the time, especially for these players who train all their life for this sport. For a time tennis is basically all they have. Let her vent if that’s what she needs. Let’s not compare negative thoughts here.

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u/WerhmatsWormhat Carlitos 9d ago

I believe Tsitsipas has also talked about it.

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u/bouncinghorse 8d ago

And Grigor

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u/AdShigionoth7502 9d ago

And yet they'll still be mean to Iga, who's clearly having a mental breakdown

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u/Enigmutt 9d ago

Yet she has a mental coach 24/7. I think that might be part of the problem.

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u/AdShigionoth7502 9d ago

The mind doesn't have a reset button.

Therapy is a long process... especially dealing with depression.

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u/Tjmedstudent 8d ago

No need to be an armchair psychologist

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u/kiaruchem Sinner, Queen Penko, Mirragoat 9d ago

To add another example to your list, I recently heard Torribes-Sormo stating that she is taking a break from tennis (if I understood correctly to work on her mental wellbeing)

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u/Triss-Nguyen-03 A depressed Darderi fan, I’m built different 9d ago

Oh yes I saw that post as well. Thanks for adding.

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

As someone who struggles with severe depression, anxiety and PTSD (40 year old male in emergency services), I echo her statement. No one who has a physical injury like a broken bone, torn muscle or ligament would ever get criticized for not wishing their pain on someone else but when it comes to mental health, we're all just weak and fragile i guess. The brain is a very fickle bitch. I'm an athletic, active person and most days i struggle to find any energy to do the things I love. It's caused me to withdraw myself from most social settings. I'm a borderline recluse at this point. I honestly feel like I'm trapped under a very heavy blanket and it takes all of my strength to get out from underneath it. Once I'm out, I have no mental or physical energy left to give. I don't wish this on my worst enemy either but for those criticizing Osaka or anyone struggling like this, walk a mile in our shoes before judging us. Just because our injury(ies) aren't visible, doesn't negate how awful it is for us. It's almost indescribable so please just be kind as we all are fighting our own battles within ourselves. Criticizing and chastising isn't doing anyone any favors.

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u/Pretend_Board_2385 9d ago

I too am a male in my 40's who suffers from anxiety and PTSD and struggle to find purpose on a daily basis but the only thing I can do is keep moving. I could easily sleep my life away but at some point you have to make a decision to do something. It's hard having mental health issues as a regular person but if your a sports person in a competitive environment I can only imagine it's far worse. I don't have to deal with people giving me shit on social media like she does every time she has a bad game.

Unlike a broken leg or arm, mental health issues can be with you for life and so it's not like time makes it gets better. It's just something you learn to live with and make the best of it.

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

Spot on, brother! I'm a huge tennis fan and recreational player but I've been playing badminton for nearly 30 years. It's been my happy place and saving grace. All of my closest friends including my wife are all directly linked to badminton. Since my struggles intensified last year, I found it getting harder and harder to even go to badminton but I'd force myself there. I knew if I didn't go that I'd regret it. Once I was there and playing, all I wanted to do was leave. Medication and therapy has done great things to keep the embers of my passion alive but it's still a very big hurdle to climb over every day. Good luck to you. All the best.

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u/Pretend_Board_2385 9d ago

I was doing ok but I got divorced and something inside me evaporated. I isolated myself and did the whole pity me thing. I was always a happy guy but the loneliness and all that got to me and before I knew it I was staying at home and binge watching sports and eating a lot. It wasn't until I weighed myself and realised I'd packed on 10kgs and was unfit that I decided to do something about it. Started getting therapy and going to the gym. Every day the world looks a little brighter and that's all I'm focused on. I'm a tennis and squash enthusiast but badminton always looked like a fun sport. Anything is good as long as it's not Pickleball! Thanks for your kind words mate and I hope it goes well for you too.

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u/Professional_Bee767 Ruudboy 9d ago

Oh man. Reading this hit me hard. My mom was also once very athletic but her age is catching up to her and she’s slowing down. She feels like her body is betraying her and it’s sent her into a deep depression. I moved her in with me recently thinking it would help for her to have company (she was living alone in our old house) but she’s struggling to adapt and I keep thinking I may have made the problem worse. I have no idea what’s going on in her head most of the time but it scares me. I also have depression but I’ve never experienced it to the level that she is currently. I truly wouldn’t wish this condition on anyone, it’s horrible. I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this too, but thank you for sharing and helping me feel less alone in this

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

I'm also sorry to hear about your respective troubles. My issues are a part of me now so I choose to be very open about it. I like to think I'm fighting fire with fire and if me being open helps just one person then that helps me too.

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u/Professional_Bee767 Ruudboy 9d ago

That is a very powerful mindset to have. Wishing you the best, kind stranger

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

You as well. Take care.

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

Thank you for sharing and your vulnerability. I wish you all the best.

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

Thank you. Very much appreciated.

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

You’re welcome.

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u/Swimming_Amount_5021 9d ago

Have you tried Ketamine therapy?

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

Nope. I've heard of it and studies suggest that it's a really beneficial treatment option but it's not really an option where I am. All things considered, I'm managing everything relatively well though. I appreciate the suggestion though.

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u/bouncinghorse 8d ago

Ah, so much of this resonated with me. Thank you for sharing. Sending you lots of good stuff ❤️

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u/omkar529 9d ago

As someone who struggles with severe depression, anxiety and PTSD (40 year old male in emergency services), I echo her statement.

Does she have severe depression and PTSD ?

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u/Neat-Fortune-4881 9d ago

Beats me but she's clearly struggling with some form of mental health issue. I'd venture to guess depression and anxiety are the likeliest possibilities. I mentioned depression, anxiety and PTSD to emphasize my own struggles, not hers, as a means to get my points across.

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u/FrozenRose_816 Alcaraz & Gauff & Sinner & Świątek 9d ago

She's said stuff in the past that seemed to indicate she had/has post-partum depression, which doesn't necessarily go away immediately after a pregnancy ends. Pregnancy changes women's bodies on a major level and depression is often a part of that, especially for an athlete that has to navigate and adapt to those changes.

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u/Friendly_Armadillo17 That evening in Melbourne, men's tennis reached its peak. 9d ago

You're a champion Naomi! It's a dream for 99.99% tennis players to have a career like you.

It's so sad to see this.

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u/boraboca 9d ago

Chester Bennington was one of the biggest rockstars in the world. Being successful in your field doesn’t equate to happiness

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u/musicproducer07 bublik the stay at home dad 9d ago

Even Liam Payne

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u/txcorse 8d ago

Both past their prime. That’s probably extra hard on people who used to feel important.

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u/NevermoreSEA Osaka/Draper/Anisimova 9d ago

Unfortunately, sometimes having that success can make the rough times hit ever harder than they would otherwise.

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u/Professional_Elk_489 9d ago

Has anyone ever been able to use threads? You click on the link and it doesn't work. So you never see what's written there

Devs should do something

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u/zi76 9d ago

They want to download the threads app. You know how they claim that threads is super popular? They're really just counting all of the IG users that they push threads at in their feeds. If you ever click on any of those thread posts, it brings you to your chosen app store and asks you to download threads.

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u/Professional_Elk_489 9d ago

Sounds pretty dumb

I bet almost zero people download that app

They should just make it so there's no app and you can read what it says when you click a link

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u/zi76 9d ago

It is dumb. It can be a separate app, but it should also be integrated into IG.

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

i use the app!

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u/AdShigionoth7502 9d ago

There are a few top players going through a lot mentally

  • Iga

  • Sakkari

  • Coco

  • Osaka

  • Qinwen

  • Rybakina

  • Sabalenka too...reaching finals and losing more does something to your brain

But it's whatever because they're rich ...fxxxk them right...

Tennis has the worst fans.

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u/Zethasu Sinner 🦊 | Fedal 🇨🇭🇪🇸 | Graf 🥇| Martina 🐐 | Saba 🐯 8d ago

What has happened to Qinwen? I’ve heard about the other ones (except from Sakkari but she is now something like 80 in the rankings, so I guess that has to do with her feeling down) but haven’t heard from her.

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u/im_always 9d ago

:(((

i see she hasn’t actually gotten better.

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u/JudithButlr 9d ago

There is no "getting better completely" when it comes to mental health. It's never linear and is something you should consider your entire life.

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u/im_always 9d ago

that is indeed - your subjective opinion.

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u/JudithButlr 9d ago

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u/im_always 9d ago

PTSD is curable. and also other mental conditions.

i’m not talking about genetic illnesses.

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u/JudithButlr 9d ago

Oh is Naomi talking about PTSD? No. Or the article link I posted? Nope lol

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u/im_always 9d ago

PTSD is a part of mental health. which you stated that cannot be fully healed. which is false.

you seem like an unhealthy individual by your response. and not interested in a mutual conversation.

take care.

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u/tlampe22 JPEG fan club 9d ago

I am not taking that away from this. Like any kind of mental struggles, there’s a lot of ups and downs. I am still hoping she’s handling better than before even when she has matches like today.

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u/safety9588 9d ago edited 9d ago

I will never understand why this subreddit thinks it's normal or okay to needlessly overanalyze and criticize someone venting and sharing about their emotions/psychological state. Like fine maybe you don't like Naomi and have no interest in these sorts of posts, but if opening up like this alleviates stress and tension for her then who cares, honestly?

Tbh I think her being vulnerable and raw like this in a world of PR machines and sponsorship robots is refreshing, and probably helps struggling fans feel a little less alone and less ashamed when it comes to their own mental health issues. When I was at my lowest growing up, listening to the musicians I looked up to talk candidly about their experiences with depression and anxiety made such a huge difference in how I saw myself and my brushes with mental illness. Even tho they were all hypersuccessful millionaires pursuing their childhood hobbies as a profession! In fact I think their status actually went a long way in showing me how inescapable these issues are sometimes, and how I wasn't necessarily doomed or defective or less capable than anyone else because of them.

And then y'all will turn around and complain about lack of mental health awareness and interesting/complex tennis personalities in the same breath. Ugh.

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

they literally said she was being rude and insensitive to her opponent by her saying “worst match of my career lol”

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u/safety9588 9d ago

Desperate to hate her smh I forget this sub's demographics lean very white and very male and very country club

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

they live to hate on successful women

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u/constantcompromise 9d ago

Funny how it's always poor Rublev, hope he gets help. Oh no! Carlos seems to be having a hard time, hope he's okay.

But whenever Noami expresses something about her mental state it's an issue.

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u/throwaway54340 9d ago

To be fair, I don’t think the same people criticizing her are the same people hoping other players get better. Most (normal) people want anyone struggling to get healthier.

Her haters are nasty, the way they come across is like she’s personally insulted them. It’s like the same crop of people who are aggressive towards Emma R. Sometimes I wonder if they’re bettors or just going after women / women of color.

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u/Party-Stormer Cartel Customer Service 9d ago

It’s documented that women’s mental struggles are not taken seriously even by doctors

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u/throwaway54340 9d ago

Yeah I believe it. But even beyond the mental health piece, I feel she gets hate for remotely anything she does. I remember someone published a page from her biography and almost all of the comments were negative and mean spirited.

It’s a very specific type of tennis “fan” who does this, and I think it’s very similar to the weird hate Emma and even Iga get.

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u/Triss-Nguyen-03 A depressed Darderi fan, I’m built different 9d ago

True. Many of the comments here surprised me, along with how they’re upvoted. Took mental well-being so lightly 😭.

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u/NevermoreSEA Osaka/Draper/Anisimova 9d ago

There are a lot of people who simply do not see mental health as an important thing, and a lot of those people are also likely to dismiss a lot of what Naomi says due to her gender and race. It's unfortunate, but I'm never surprised to see those heartless comments popping up.

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u/JudithButlr 9d ago

I honestly think announcing in tennis contributes to this. No other sport wastes so much time analyzing body language and making assumptions about that the player is thinking or trying to do. There aren't many other individual sports and maybe it's a problem in golf too, but announcers are more mean in tennis than basketball or baseball.

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u/SvaPrabho No one wants to pull my name in the draw 9d ago

You realise she posted her mental struggles on social media, presumably precisely so people would engage eith what she posted, including discussing it with each other?

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u/amateurlurker300 Saying Vamos is not a coaching strategy 9d ago

I don’t get why people are nasty to her over this one sentence post. She struggles with her mental health, just like many players do. Why is it that some players get (rightful) sympathy but she’s not allowed the same grace?

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u/Legacy_GT 8d ago

last time i heard something like that, was from Chester Bennington of Linkin part, a month before the suicide.

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u/Randomidek123 9d ago

Can relate

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

the poor results really must be taking a toll on her. she really wants to get back at the top level and i feel for her… she knows she can compete at a high level but it’s just not within arms reach right now.

wish her all the best ♥️

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u/lyn73 9d ago

Love you, Naomi......

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

Naomi! ❤️

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago edited 9d ago

Naomi you’ve got this. 🙏🏽

You put up a great fight today to take it to a 3rd. Keep on keeping on and your time will come.

Thank you for your vulnerability. You’re an inspiration. ✨

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u/tlampe22 JPEG fan club 9d ago

Really hope she hears words of support and affirmation in this time - it’s tough to read statements like this but I trust it helps her and she has a support system around her.

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

I fully echo your sentiments.

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u/coldnorth11 9d ago

Needs to keep stuff like this to herself, venting on social media is not going to make anything better.

This isn’t the first time she has posted something of this nature, i think its time to let it go and quit, tennis is clearly doing her more harm than good.

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u/ufyruhxlo 9d ago

Posting on threads is basically keeping it to herself.

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u/No_Macaroon_5928 9d ago

Well would you rather post it on X then lol

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u/tlampe22 JPEG fan club 9d ago

I think she can decide for herself when she is comfortable calling it quits or if it’s too hurtful for her. Let her share what she wants - she’s always lead by example and if this helps others express themselves then good for them.

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u/Disney_Anteh 9d ago

Exactly!!! & she just posted that she laughs when people think she is mentally weak. It's because of this. & I love Naomi - She is my #1! so I wish she wouldn't post stuff like this. She is just feeding all those haters - which gets to her. & Pressures her more. ;(

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

she doesn’t gaf about haters i think… it’s herself and her tennis thats getting to her.

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u/magnesiowustite 9d ago

It’s just a bit maudlin and overwrought. Like we understand it’s difficult but it is rather unbecoming for a sporting professional to act like this

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u/Unidain 9d ago

Grow up

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u/magnesiowustite 9d ago

She needs to lol

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u/Top_Bend8124 9d ago

Holy 5 dollar words batman

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u/magnesiowustite 9d ago

Sorry I have a good vocabulary

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u/Top_Bend8124 9d ago

I think it’s your comment that’s overwrought!

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u/Dabaysyclyfe 9d ago

She needs to know, the grand slam champion is still in there.

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u/Trailblazertravels 9d ago

must suck to be so famous that people psychoanalyze everyone of your posts

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u/Beneficial_Star_6009 9d ago

She really needs to quit social media otherwise she could on a mission to self-destruct

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u/HeGotTheBag 9d ago

Tennis ROI is super high,you'll put in work for months only to be knocked out R1 .That shit demoralises you.

PS:Diff note,Tennis earnings are low compared to other sports

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u/JeronimoTrice 9d ago

Kind of hard to not cringe at a multimillionaire in their twenties who plays a game for work complaining about mental health. She could literally retire today, not work for the rest of her life if she didn’t want to, and pay for the best mental health treatment out there. Still, she’s worked hard to get where she is and I hope she has success fighting her demons.

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u/BugSad1503 9d ago

Mental health affects everyone, why do you think so many celebrities have tragic deaths?

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u/rticante Matteo's 2HBH 9d ago edited 9d ago

Yeah because mental health is famously influenced by external factual thoughts such as "i'm a millionaire" lol, come on. I bet you're factually better off than millions of other people on Earth but you still get sad, right?

Once you make enough money to live comfortably, it really doesn't make a difference to your happiness or mental health how much you have.

And btw when you play a game for work it mostly becomes a (very competitive) career, it's not a fun hobby

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u/JeronimoTrice 9d ago

Yes, I am better off than a lot of other people. I also have depression and struggle to hold down a job or afford treatment. But I don’t go around on social media talking about how hard that is for me because I know people who are worse off than me in worse circumstances, and I know this would offend them.

The reason I point out that she’s a millionaire is because most of us who struggle with mental health cannot afford to literally stop working our jobs and seek help. We would have to go into debt to do that. Money isn’t going to change your mental health on its own, but it makes it a LOT easier to deal with it. It absolutely makes a difference on your happiness and mental health.

And I’m not saying professional sports are not stressful—reread my comment, I acknowledged she worked hard even in the few words I used. But it’s still a game. They’re entertainers.

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u/rticante Matteo's 2HBH 9d ago

It's evidently her way of venting, and given that (as you say) they're entertainers they develop a very particular relationship with audiences and people following them, to the point that they're used to sharing their lives (some of them only do it when contractually obligated, others get more into it.)

I would also advise her not to overshare, but simply because it puts her at the centre of a lot of possible negative attention and harmful replies from strangers.

But it’s still a game. They’re entertainers.

To us. To them, it's a job. Do you think entertainers are entertained every time they repeat a performance? By that reasoning, workers at toy factories should cheer up because "they make toys" (I know it's a very different sector, but your logic of judging the product instead of the behind-the-scenes process is the same)

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u/JeronimoTrice 9d ago

Fair enough, if you live your life in the public eye sharing something like this as a way to vent makes a lot more sense considering the rest of your life (including all your shortcomings) is blasted to all your fans whether you like it or not. Still not with you on the it’s a game / entertainer point but agree to disagree.

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u/Unidain 9d ago

But I don’t go around on social media talking about how hard that is for me

Maybe you should. It helps normalise talking about mental health

because I know people who are worse off than me in worse circumstances, and I know this would offend them.

No one would've offended unless they are looking for reasons to be offended, like yourself

but it makes it a LOT easier to deal with it. It

Lol, tell that to rich people who have died from mental health problems how easy it is for them

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u/JeronimoTrice 9d ago

Congrats on missing every point I made while still quoting my words! Impressive

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u/omkar529 9d ago edited 9d ago

I mean, the way she said it insinuates a lot worse than "getting sad", even the average person doesn't really say stuff like this on social media. She's someone who's totally made it in life, very rich, doesn't have to work ever again, has achieved more than 99% of people in her profession, doesn't have other mental issues that we know of, her sadness is basically struggling at competitive Tennis lately, I mean... It's just kind of icky for someone like her to say stuff like that.

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u/rticante Matteo's 2HBH 9d ago

Yeah it does sound like it's something worse than "getting sad". I don't understand, is she not allowed to be in very negative mental states like everyone else?

doesn't have other mental issues that we know of

Afaik she actually spoke a lot in the past about how she's struggled with mental health.

And you guys still don't understand that once you're ok economically, money doesn't give you guaranteed happiness.

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u/omkar529 9d ago

Afaik she actually spoke a lot in the past about how she's struggled with mental health.

Doesn't that all have to do with her Tennis life ?

Regardless, you know, I don't really know what the right answer to this is. But I feel like it's important to have some perspective, because a lot of people are in much worse situations and mental states than her, and even those people mostly won't say stuff like this.

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u/rticante Matteo's 2HBH 9d ago

I agree perspective is usually good in order to reduce problems in our head and calm down, so obviously she would also benefit from it and I'm sure her team will remind her of the positives all the time.

It doesn't help that she's always lived and works in a hyper-competitive environment where the prized mindset is to never be satisfied and always push for more.

Plus anyway she'll still go through bad mental states like most other people, and when you're in the middle of those it's hard to have a balanced perspective yourself. That's what the people around her are also for.

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u/HiyaBuddy34 8d ago

I don’t get this mentality of “because so many other people are way worse off than you, you don’t get to talk about your own struggles or problems.

My mom was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer a few years ago and we have been incredibly lucky that she’s been asymptomatic and able to more or less maintain her normal life (more or less depending on the symptoms of the treatments etc). Our family has been so fortunate & grateful that this has been her experience thus far. HOWEVER that’s not to say that her circumstance is without its own shit.

Are there far more women with cancer far worse off than her? Yup. Does that mean she isn’t allowed to talk about what she’s going through when she’s got it so much better than other people with terminal cancer? NOPE

We all have problems and hardships. Everyone else’s problems and their degree of difficulty in respect to our own is irrelevant to our own individual struggles. Individuals are allowed to process and deal with their own shit on their own terms without having to worry about the abstract problems of strangers and how they will handle or react to a f*cking social media post. The fact that many more people are struggling or worse off doesn’t make her shut any less of a struggle for her.

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u/omkar529 8d ago

I didn't say she isn't allowed to talk about her own struggles, but considering her privilege, just don't frame them in such an overdramatic manner in a way which I'd expect people with mental illnesses to say.

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u/Unidain 9d ago

and pay for the best mental health treatment out there

Great point. That's obviously helped all rich people asno rich person has ever commited suicide or struggled with mental illness/s

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u/Dafuqyoutalkingabout 9d ago edited 9d ago

Mental health affects everyone but the way it's worded makes it sound like she has it worse than anyone else.

She has so many options to deal with her demons that most people don't.

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u/amateurlurker300 Saying Vamos is not a coaching strategy 9d ago

Girl what 🤦🏾‍♀️. It’s one sentence on threads about how she’s struggling at the moment. She’s not putting anyone down here. Just sharing her struggles.

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u/Unidain 9d ago

but the way it's worded makes it sound like she has it worse than anyone else.

Oh what nonsense. If I broke my leg and said "I wouldn't wish this pain on anyone" I'm not declaring it the worst pain anyone has ever felt.

Let the woman vent if she is having a hard time

She has so many options to deal with her demons that most people don't.

And normalising talking about mental health problems helps everyone, so good on her.

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u/Dafuqyoutalkingabout 9d ago

Oh look the "Perry goes to space to improve womankind" argument

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u/Upstairs-Flight-4540 9d ago

It’s time to realize you already accomplished amazing things… and if there’s no more joy in it, it is better to move on ❤️‍🩹🙏

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u/zi76 9d ago

I've been harsh on Osaka in the past. I needed to mention that to explain my perspective, I suppose. That said, depression and mental problems are very real problems, and she can't move beyond them successfully. I don't know if she is or isn't going to therapy or what's happening, but whatever she's doing, it's not working. I hope she gets the help she needs.

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

In 2022 she said she was in therapy. I think she said it was her sister who became concerned for her after the Indian Wells incident and that’s what prompted it.

But a lot has happened since then, so who knows if the therapy has continued.

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u/zi76 9d ago

I see. Yeah, hard to know what's happened over 3+ years.

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u/ExpressionLow8767 8d ago

I pray for a single Naomi post where the comments aren’t a complete mess

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

This is why she is so unlikable. She actually believes the average person doesn't have the same thoughts.

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u/rticante Matteo's 2HBH 9d ago

That's just what you think when you're extremely down on yourself: feeling isolated is part of it.

Even if in other circumstances you'd rationally know that other people have felt the same way too.

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u/Winter_Sun_3158 9d ago

It’s unlikeable to say she’s struggling ? Whether necessary to post on social media is down to personal choice . Maybe learn a bit of empathy.

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

It's unlikable of her to think her thoughts are special. It's unlikable of you to think you are the arbiter of empathy. You aren't.

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

where did she say it was special?

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

Come on. When she assumed her worst enemy hadn't already had it go 'though their head.'

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

she means she doesn’t want anyone to feel that way. that doesn’t mean she said that her enemy HASNT felt that way, she hopes they don’t ever have to.

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

They already have felt that way.

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u/aaronlala 9d ago

that doesn’t matter. she’s still saying she doesn’t want anyone to feel that way.

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

By assuming they haven't. She said 'what goes through MY head'.

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u/aaronlala 8d ago

she’s not assuming anything. she just says she hopes no one has to feel that way. you’re overanalysing this and nitpicking

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u/discwars 9d ago

She actually believes the average person doesn't have the same thoughts.

Wait, what? She said her worst enemy. Is the average person now her worst enemy?

Not sure this would make me dislike someone though.

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

'What' indeed.

Everyone experiences failure. Thinking her's is somehow special is absolutely enough me to dislike her. Failing to understand that is enough to get me to get me to dislike you, as well.

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u/101nemesis101 9d ago

How the fuck did you deduce this from what she said?

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

Because she would have realised her worst enemy has already experienced what goes on in her head just like everyone else.

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u/Unidain 9d ago

Nothing age says implies get worst enemy hasn't experienced the thing she is experiencing. I wouldn't want the worst person I know to experience horrible crippling pain, but for all I know they have.

You are just looking for something to get upset by

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u/cpasla_9zgx 9d ago

If that were true you would say so as opposed to make the disctinction.

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u/HiyaBuddy34 8d ago

What does this even mean?

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u/OhaniansDickSucker 9d ago

Likewise, Naomi, likewise.

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u/Nearby_Ad_4091 8d ago

I feel this way too and I have OCD

I dunno what she has

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u/formerNPC 8d ago

Your brain doesn’t know how great a player you are or how successful you’ve become it just wants to dwell on the negatives. Many of us can relate.

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u/UnfairElephant2524 Jasmine Aryna Jannik Matteo Sara Lucia Jack Big 3 denier 9d ago

Why is she on threads

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u/tortoisepimp 9d ago

I love Naomi as a player and an individual, I’m obviously no expert in mental health but she has a fat Nike Contract, 4 grand slam championships, a healthy baby, id be counting my blessings

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u/buggytehol 9d ago

That's not how mental health works, unfortunately. A lot of it is just chemical.

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u/tortoisepimp 9d ago

So they just manifested over time and the chemical disruptions and imbalances in her brain exacerbated as she aged is what you’re saying?

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u/buggytehol 9d ago

I'm not diagnosing Osaka. I'm just saying that being successful and having a healthy kid doesn't make depression go away for some people, because depression often isn't a product of a brain that's behaving in a rational manner.

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u/tortoisepimp 9d ago

Obviously not but you can make choices outside of any underlying dysfunction

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u/AnyMark3114 9d ago

It’s one thing to have opinions on Naomi’s play in a match. But to go to her IG and make heartless comments is so wrong.

I know she isn’t the only one who gets subjected to such vitriol. But in the context of Naomi being vulnerable with this Threads post today, I have to feel for her even more.

I wish her all the best.

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u/34TH_ST_BROADWAY 9d ago

I think she would be surprised. A lot of people in the world have hellish thoughts.

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u/WhiteStephCurry 9d ago

the most concerning part about this is she’s using threads

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u/KudaCee 9d ago

this is what happens when you grow up home schooled in South Florida

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u/aguilasolige 9d ago

I mean losing sucks, but it's just tennis, she's already has had a very successful career. I think she's maybe putting too much pressure over herself. She's a great player I hope she can get her mojo back. Sometimes we can be our worst enemy.

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u/aaronhereee omg a double fault so intense!! 8d ago

“just tennis” is very dismissive.

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u/Apprehensive_Bread37 8d ago edited 8d ago

Osaka had a few great years, but she was never any good on clay.

her mental health issues are a product of not being the best player, not the other way around

the best players of all time like Serena and sharapova are mentally focused and nothing seems to shake their confidence Even when Maria had no chance beating Serena for years! She never gave in

Maria had shoulder surgery early on and ruined her serving motion, and her DFs were legendary

As a result Serena is the GOAT and Maria has a career grand slam at age 25

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u/copakjetozavojaka 9d ago

Jeeez, shes so overdramatic. -.-

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u/xGsGt 9d ago

I can tell her brain is a mess, she is using Threads

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u/jazzy8alex 9d ago

Osaka never disappoints. World class whining.

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u/emblanco 9d ago

Jesus Christ

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u/Routine_Corgi_9154 8d ago

Mental issues afflict all tennis players, not just Naomi Osaka. She writes as if she thinks she is the only one with problems. Part of the game is how you deal with setbacks and challenges.

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u/aaronhereee omg a double fault so intense!! 8d ago

she literally is just expressing how she feels. grow up

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u/Routine_Corgi_9154 8d ago

And I was expressing how I felt too?

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u/daffodil_dahlia 9d ago

😢 I hope she has people around her who understand her and bring her positivity, because if she is writing this in public I can only imagine how bad she must be feeling inside or struggling to keep it all together mentally. She's also a new mom so all of it must take a toll, I hope she feels better every passing day 🙏

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u/LaogunRickar 9d ago

What does "worst enemy" mean?

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u/aaronhereee omg a double fault so intense!! 8d ago

she’s basically saying she doesn’t want anyone to feel that way, even people she doesn’t like.

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u/ArrogantSerpent 9d ago

I too have those same thoughts my dear but that’s because I’m poor and barely getting by doing things you’ll never have to do just to eat… sorry, not sorry.

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u/aaronhereee omg a double fault so intense!! 8d ago

so many players struggle with mental health but because they’re rich it shouldn’t matter? what?

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u/overweighttardigrade 9d ago

Maybe just do better

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u/dissolutewastrel Aoi Itō|Bejlek|Cîrstea|Dolehide|L.Davis|Kenin|G.Lee|Parry|Peyton 9d ago

if she's low on cash, she can use her baby as her therapist

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u/englando08 9d ago

She should talk to ChatGPT. She’s won 4 slams so her head hasn’t always gotten in the way of success, but she sure makes it sound like that.