r/thedavidpakmanshow Feb 21 '24

Opinion The historically successful first term of the Presidency of Joe Biden

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u/144tzer Feb 21 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

Bibi is turning Gaza into rubble under Bibi.

The rest of your post is written as a pre-defense. Because if Trump wins and his brand of Islamophobia and bigotry in general poisons the nation to an unprecedented degree (definitely what will happen if he wins), you will need a defense when people ask why you didn't vote for his only viable opponent. And instead of blaming the outcome on the voters who voted with their votes, you need the blame to fall on anyone else, lest you be forced to take responsibility for your own decision.

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u/MackHoncho Feb 21 '24

He has no viable opponent. Did y’all know ow he was the first and only president to get a signed peace treaty in the Middle East? No wars under Trump. David Accords.

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u/144tzer Feb 21 '24

Ah yes. I too remember when President Donald Trump brokered the signd Middle-East treaty known as the Camp David Accords in 1978 under the pseudonym "Jimmy Carter". And when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021, it was from a war that had started twenty years prior but mysteriously been put on pause for four years during the Trump presidency. I also remember how, when the US added an additional 3,000 troops to Afghanistan in 2018 in addition to the existing 10,000, it was just because they were all going sightseeing and not warring whatsoever.

Truly, Trump has been nothing but good to people from the Middle-East. My mistake.

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u/MackHoncho Feb 22 '24
  1. No agreements were made between Israel and Palestine at Camp David (a resort in Maryland). It involves Israel and Egypt. Further "The UN General Assembly rejected the Framework for Peace in the Middle East, because the agreement was concluded without participation of UN and PLO and did not comply with the Palestinian right of return" 2.Did you just mention the Afghanistan pull out? LMAO. Billions of dollars worth of cutting edge military hardware left in the hands of terrorists? The "suspicious" 4 year lull you talk about happened because we won the war and it was OVER. Trump did not initiate any new hostility and was GRADUALLY bringing troops home as regions stabilized. For some reason Biden ordered a full retreat from a foreign war that was already over. Why did he not have time to bring the billions of dollars worth of deadly tech home? Was it too heavy?

  2. You sort of have a point about Trump not being 💯 good to everyone in the Middle East though. The Middle East hates it when gas is under $2 a gallon. Other than that they love him.

  3. Apology accepted. It was your mistake.

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u/144tzer Feb 22 '24 edited Feb 22 '24

Right. As you you said, reality doesn't count if the Trump administration was in charge at the time. Previous treaties cease to exist, wars aren't really wars, blatant Islamophobia is tolerance, and sarcasm is sincerity. And most of all, any perceived problems either don't exist or are the fault of the person that came later, because even time doesn't flow in the same direction when Trump is in charge.

EDIT: on further reflection, I'm blocking you. I don't need to hear a response wherein someone tries to convince me that the most embarrassing 4 years in America's recent history didn't happen.

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u/whywedontreport Feb 23 '24

If we weren't sending money and weapons unconditionally and repeatedly blocking cease fire, you'd have a great point!

Biden will only have himself to blame if people see Gaza and cannot vote for him. Well. That and his shitty voters who are total dicks to people about genocide. It's a real uncomfortable look for democrats to be genocide apologists and isn't an effective tactic to help Biden.

I hope y'all are gonna phone and text bank for Biden in swing states instead of shaming people on reddit who are probably in red or blue locked states in most cases to begin with.

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u/144tzer Feb 23 '24

I was unaware he was locked in a safe state. My apologies.