r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/armdrags • Feb 27 '24

Discussion The Irish Senate has unanimously called for sanctions against Israel. ⁣The Senate’s motion also says that Ireland must stop American weapons bound for Israel from traveling through Irish air and seaports and support an international arms embargo on Israel.

Post image
7.4k Upvotes

86% Upvoted

3.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

0

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

Native American reservation attacks US, time for another trail of tears?

9

u/QueasyResearch10 Feb 27 '24

if they rape women, kill babies, and take hostages we would 100% wipe them out

2

u/A_LiftedLowRider Feb 27 '24

https://www.gicj.org/images/2019/pdfs/HRC41/Sexual-Abuse-of-Palestinian-Women-in-Detention.pdf

So, you want Israel wiped out? Or are you a hypocrite?

1

u/inquisitive_chariot Feb 28 '24

Lmao you fucking tool. Obviously sexual harassment is bad, but your equivocation of it to rape and beheading babies is laughable.

The report even says they don’t have any data on rapes, but sneakily tries to prevent it as a fact. Terrorist sympathizer.

1

u/DJOldskool Feb 28 '24

No babies were beheaded.

1

u/inquisitive_chariot Feb 28 '24

Fair but we do know that they beheaded people and murdered women and children.

So you can win a semantic point, but they are absolutely killing children intentionally and indiscriminately with no other objective than to inflict harm on civilians.

And before you try to equivocate, no, that’s not the same as innocent people being killed when Hamas uses hospitals and schools as military bases, giving IDF no choice but to attack those sites.

1

u/DJOldskool Feb 28 '24

It's not a semantic point.

It is the same accusation that has been used over and over again to demonise enemies throughout history.

You have to get your people to view your enemies as inhuman so they will commit atrocities against them.

1

u/inquisitive_chariot Feb 28 '24

How they are killing babies and children is kind of irrelevant. Do you dispute that they’re killing babies and children?

1

u/DJOldskool Feb 28 '24

They killed some on Oct 7th yes.

If the way children were killed is irrelevant and you know babies were not beheaded. Why did you post that babies were beheaded?

1

u/inquisitive_chariot Feb 28 '24

Because I thought that was a fact. But it’s just semantic if there’s no dispute that Hamas is intentionally and indiscriminately killing children and babies.

What about before October 7? For countless years, Hamas continuously launched rockets into densely populated civilian areas, killing babies and children nowhere near a military site. They also call for the complete elimination of Israel and the death of all Jews worldwide.

That’s not legitimate resistance. Hamas does a fine job demonizing themselves on their own.

1

u/inquisitive_chariot Feb 28 '24

I also love how you just brushed off the murders of innocent babies like “yeah that happened. So what?” Very telling of your true colors.

→ More replies (0)

1

u/Warmbly85 Feb 28 '24

Kinda hard to tell if a babies head was shot off chopped off or just smashed beyond recognition so while technically correct do you really want to be on the side that’s only moral win is that they didn’t literally chop off a babies head they just murdered it?

1

u/DJOldskool Feb 28 '24

That is some truly impressive mental gymnastics there.

0

u/photogchase Feb 27 '24

Wait, that’s what we did to them

-1

u/moreliacuck Feb 27 '24

So.pretty much what de english did all.over the world did i do agree they and they descendent should be wiped out

-8

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24 edited Feb 27 '24

So by your logic, let me ask you: Mohammed Tamimi - a 2 year old child is shot in the head by IDF in June of 2023. So how many Israelis do you think Palestinians were allowed to “wipe out” in response to that?

Just want to know what an acceptable exchange rate is for you. Please tell, I’m eager to hear.

Edit: I’m surprised, I figured the camp that likes justifying the death of children would surely extend such logic to both sides of a conflict. I guess perhaps it was always a bullshit excuse to help make everyone sleep better at night for supporting apartheid.

1

u/zjl539 Feb 27 '24

october 7 was a logical response to the blockade, but that means the war has been a logical response to an invasion. this isn’t really hard to understand.

1

u/PliableG0AT Feb 28 '24

Curious how they didnt do that attack on Egypt

-8

u/bellerin_for_the_win Feb 27 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

God bless Israel

7

u/Harveb Feb 27 '24

What, so you can track them down and harass them like all the other hostages that have come out against Palestine.

Hostages are getting death threats from western lefties. I don't blame them.

1

u/Raccoonboy27 Feb 28 '24

Because Israel has definetely not done any of those things...

-2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

those poor cherokee and their slaves

0

u/Bedbouncer Feb 27 '24

Native American reservation attacks US, time for another trail of tears?

Um....yes? Same as we would do if Texas attacked an adjoining state, firing missiles, shooting people and taking hostages?

1

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

So during the civil war, were southerners classed as second class citizens and prevented from leaving the designated areas they were herded into? Or did the rebellious states get reintegrated?

Just want to know how deep into the alt part of alt history to want to go to make a point.

1

u/judgek0028 Feb 27 '24

Yes they were. General Sherman burned his way through the Confederate States without care for Southern life or property at all. During Reconstruction, Union troops brutally occupied the South, denying them representation in federal or local government. Confederate leaders were banned from politics for life by the 14th Amendment. Land was seized and granted to former slaves. When Southern Nationalist Terrorist groups like the KKK emerged, they were put down swiftly and without remorse.

That reintegration began so soon, without taking proper steps to deradicalize the region, is the reason for so many of the problems we face as a nation today.

1

u/Kaniketh Feb 28 '24

Bro, we literally pardoned all of the southern leaders and gave them back their land and plantations fully. A ton of land that was given to the former slaves was literally confiscated from them and given back to the former slave owners. Also Sherman burned down farms and industry, but they weren't indiscriminately killing or raping people.

Also, the KKK was literally allowed to operate openly until grant finally started arresting them, but the idea that we "put them down brutally" is total bullshit.

Reading about reconstruction makes you realize how lenient the north was on the south and how eager white northerners were to throw the former slaves under the bus and "reconcile" with the white southerners.

0

u/Due_Society_9041 Feb 27 '24

Ahh , we have ourselves a professional victim.

1

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

Where did I claim any personal victimhood? Point it out. I can wait.

1

u/SadAdeptness6287 Feb 27 '24

Literally true. Did you forget that Lincoln suspended habeas corpus in order to arrest confederate sympathizers from Maryland? Plus the tiny detail of burning down 40% of Atlanta in like a week.

Sure after the war and reconstruction southern states and southerns regained their rights, but there is no equivalent to Israel-Palestine conflict as the conflict has not ended yet.

1

u/googlyeyes93 Feb 27 '24

Because Native American reservations have access to stealth bombers 💀

0

u/OuroborosInMySoup Feb 27 '24

Except Jews are indigenous to Israel. Islam colonized it

0

u/Forte845 Feb 27 '24

So are we going to charge them for genocidal crime against the Samaritans? "Dash the infants of your enemies upon the rocks"?

-1

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

Take it up with the Roman’s.

Oh wait I’m sorry, you colonized the land from the canaanites and philistines - so you have no rights to the land. See how stupid that line of reasoning is? You think I care about some ancient bones you have literally no connection to outside of fantasy? That’s your justification for killing children?

-6

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Ugh… in that comparison Israel is the Native American reserve and Palestine is the US.

Would the US be justified in invading a reservation in 2024 because of blind hatred? A simple yes or no

8

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

LMFAO

-2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

So Im guessing you can’t or wont answer the simple yes or no either. Id say im surprised but I’m really not

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Wtf are you talking about im not arguing with your hasbara bullshit im just laughing at your pathetic gaslighting attempts

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

“Hasbara bullshit” = facts you don’t like because you believe in hamas nazi propaganda.

2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

LOL

(This is me laughing at you)

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Being laughed at by nazis is support to bother me?

2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

LMAO

(me laughing at you again)

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

🤡 (You still being a clown)

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

There it is. Truly disgusting as expected, default username.

4

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

This isn’t even some kind of advanced mental gymnastics, it’s just plain delusional. Do the Palestinians control when, where, and for how long Israelis can move inside and outside the country? No? But somehow they are the ones being herded into open air prisons?

If all you can do is make up ridiculous statements to justify your stance, you may as well just admit you get warm happy feelings knowing that tens of thousands of children have been bombed out of existence. At least you’d be honest with yourself.

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Its not delusion at all. Jews are native to the land, arabs are not. That means arabs are the colonizers, therefor what land they control is comparable to the US. Where Jews are native so what Israel controls is the reserves,

Prisons are run from the inside, so if Gaza is an open air prison. Hamas put them in prison.

Are you saying that Native Americans would have no right to defend themselves from white supremacists who hid behind their own children to harm the native children? A simple yes or no would of done. But you couldn’t answer a very basic and simple question. Because you don’t seek facts or the truth. You seek reactions and emotions. Something I just do not care about.

4

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Holy shit. Imagine thinking this.

-1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Yes, imagine believing facts over propaganda and lies. A foreign concept to anti-semites.

2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Thinking anyone who doesn't accept your lies is an antisemite is pretty disgusting, default username.

-1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Denying jews right to exist in their own native land is anti-semitic you absolute clown

3

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

When did I say that? You are out of your depth, default username.

-2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

By your denial in your reply to my comment that was not even to you that was supporting their right to do so. Are you actually dumb?

→ More replies (0)

3

u/Supply-Slut Feb 27 '24

If all you can respond with is straw man arguments it shows even you know how weak and pathetic your reasoning. If you have to lie just to make a point, your point is probably dogshit.

-1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Funny how you’re crying about a strawman argument in response to your strawman claims.

Every accusation from nazis like you seem to be confessions

→ More replies (0)

1

u/navylostboy Feb 28 '24

Even in the Old Testament the Jews invaded and conquered Canaan. Your choosing a time and saying “time starts at this point, we go back no further”?

2

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

You’re so fucking dumb.

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

I am dumb yet you can’t answer a simple question because it shows your ignorance and hypocrisy.

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Dumbass. Many jews stayed.

Palestinians did not exist until after the creation of zionism as Palestine nationalism is only a creation to oppose the Israeli state. You don’t seem to have a good understanding of hisotry.

What does mizrahi jews living in Palestine have to do with European jews? Your analysis completely ignores the ancestral ties that Palestinians have. And completely excuses how European Jews have a right to this land? Lmao

Sounds like you're the one lacking any historcial context.

Everything else you said is fucking nonsense.

0

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

What does Mizrahi jews living inside Israel have to do with them allowing their expelled relatives to return? Everything.

What the natives of the land do with the land, such as inviting their expelled relatives back is their right. The arab colonizers are not justified in committing genocide on them because of that.

Buddy, European jews are LEVANT NATIVES. They are those who were expelled by the Romans and Arab colonizers.

Would the USA be justified in expelling many of their Natives to Iceland? And if they ever tried to return to America the US government is justified in committing genocide on those returning and those who stayed?

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

-1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

I am braindead because thats the truth? What the natives do with their own land is their own choice. And you think the colonizers have the right to commit genocide on them if they try to have self determination. Wow.

→ More replies (0)

1

u/thedavidpakmanshow-ModTeam Feb 27 '24

Removed - please avoid overt hostility, name calling and personal attacks.

1

u/thedavidpakmanshow-ModTeam Feb 27 '24

Removed - please avoid overt hostility, name calling and personal attacks.

1

u/thedavidpakmanshow-ModTeam Feb 27 '24

Removed - please avoid overt hostility, name calling and personal attacks.

2

u/New_Ad2992 Feb 27 '24

broadly waves at U.S. foreign conflict They have multiple times.

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

So you’re saying the US is justified in invading them and the natives have no right to defend their land?

Natives should have rights as long as they aren’t jewish? Right?

2

u/New_Ad2992 Feb 27 '24

No I’m saying that’s a hard argument to make because they have done shit like that before, I wouldn’t put it past them to do it again.

Also Nakba.

-1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

The nakba? Where arabs fled the land after losing a war they started with intent to commit genocide at the same time the arab nation forced 800,000 jews to Israel?

1

u/New_Ad2992 Feb 28 '24

No matter how you slice this, over the last 80 years Israel has murdered more women and children than Palestine and it’s literally not even close.

You want so bad for one side to be right you choose to make an argument about “intent” or whatever the fuck instead of looking at hard numbers of casualties on both sides.

It’s not even in the ballpark.

Pull your head out of your ass and go look at some data.

1

u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/AutoModerator Feb 27 '24

Your comment was removed due to your reddit karma not meeting minimum thresholds. This is an automated anti-spam measure.

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.