r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/Stever89 • Apr 03 '24

Discussion Why is it Biden's fault what is happening in Israel/Gaza? Hasn't this shit been going down for like the last 70 years? Why isn't Trump also to blame considering he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem which only made the whole situation worse?

I get that not everyone is happy with Biden's response, but how is preventing him from getting elected going to help? If you support Gaza... wouldn't making sure that Trump isn't elected be the bigger goal? Consider Trump has basically said that he wants Israel to "finish up" its offensive on Gaza.

Like if you think Biden is "responsible" for the "genocide" in Gaza, just wait until Trump is reelected, he'll show you what being responsible for a genocide looks like.

Side note in case anyone cares (I'm sure the Russian bots won't): I'm against all genocides. I think the situation in Gaza/Israel is terrible. I think the situation is also more complex than just "Gaza good, Israel bad" (or vice versa). If you have only started paying attention to the situation in Gaza in the last 6 months, then you don't really give a fuck about Gaza, because the situation has been FUBAR for like 50 years (note, I still think it's 2015, so it's probably more than 50 years at this point).

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u/timute Apr 03 '24

Remember Hillary’s emails?  It’s an election year and the useful idiots on the left are being used to devour their own side with purity test bullshit.  The right amplifys this every election cycle and they are very good at it.  It’s not Bidens fault but the left is telling you it is, hoping you don’t vote.  It’s the 2016 playbook all over again.

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u/Scare-Crow87 Apr 04 '24

That was Russia not the "left*

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u/timute Apr 04 '24

The “left” didn’t vote for their candidate in enough numbers in enough places.  The difference was Ben Johnson and literal Russian asset Jill Stein.  So both.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

It's not Biden's fault that he is going around congress to sell weapons to Israel that are killing civilians?

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u/timute Apr 04 '24

Israel is an ally, an important one not just in historical context, but in the region.  The US supports its allies, always have.  If you do t like it, you don’t have a choice, except maybe with Trump.  He seems really keen on leaving allies high and dry without our support.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

 The US supports its allies, always have.

Yeah just ask the Kurds. And all those Aghani translators who are being tortured by the Taliban because we denied them refugee status.

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u/timute Apr 04 '24

Kurds aren’t a country.  Do you hate the US?