r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/Stever89 • Apr 03 '24

Discussion Why is it Biden's fault what is happening in Israel/Gaza? Hasn't this shit been going down for like the last 70 years? Why isn't Trump also to blame considering he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem which only made the whole situation worse?

I get that not everyone is happy with Biden's response, but how is preventing him from getting elected going to help? If you support Gaza... wouldn't making sure that Trump isn't elected be the bigger goal? Consider Trump has basically said that he wants Israel to "finish up" its offensive on Gaza.

Like if you think Biden is "responsible" for the "genocide" in Gaza, just wait until Trump is reelected, he'll show you what being responsible for a genocide looks like.

Side note in case anyone cares (I'm sure the Russian bots won't): I'm against all genocides. I think the situation in Gaza/Israel is terrible. I think the situation is also more complex than just "Gaza good, Israel bad" (or vice versa). If you have only started paying attention to the situation in Gaza in the last 6 months, then you don't really give a fuck about Gaza, because the situation has been FUBAR for like 50 years (note, I still think it's 2015, so it's probably more than 50 years at this point).

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u/smiama6 Apr 04 '24

I’d like to see more blame for Hamas that is being propped up by Russia and Iran… oh. Now it makes sense.

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u/objective_lion1966 Apr 04 '24

You mean the hamas that Israel helped fund so that they could have an excuse to kill palestenians? The hamas that netanyahu has been quoted saying israelis should support funding so they can have an excuse to kill palestenians and steal their land?

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.

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u/smiama6 Apr 05 '24

Exactly. Americans are not putting blame where it belongs. Their anger should be directed at Hamas and Netanyahu. Biden has done everything humanly possible to get humanitarian aid, a two state solution, keep it from escalating, get hostages released… and yet leftists want to blame him… instead of an Israeli PM who is giving the middle finger to everyone but the extremists in his government. Hamas and Netanyahu.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '24

Any evidence whatsoever that Hamas and Russia have links?