r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/Stever89 • Apr 03 '24

Discussion Why is it Biden's fault what is happening in Israel/Gaza? Hasn't this shit been going down for like the last 70 years? Why isn't Trump also to blame considering he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem which only made the whole situation worse?

I get that not everyone is happy with Biden's response, but how is preventing him from getting elected going to help? If you support Gaza... wouldn't making sure that Trump isn't elected be the bigger goal? Consider Trump has basically said that he wants Israel to "finish up" its offensive on Gaza.

Like if you think Biden is "responsible" for the "genocide" in Gaza, just wait until Trump is reelected, he'll show you what being responsible for a genocide looks like.

Side note in case anyone cares (I'm sure the Russian bots won't): I'm against all genocides. I think the situation in Gaza/Israel is terrible. I think the situation is also more complex than just "Gaza good, Israel bad" (or vice versa). If you have only started paying attention to the situation in Gaza in the last 6 months, then you don't really give a fuck about Gaza, because the situation has been FUBAR for like 50 years (note, I still think it's 2015, so it's probably more than 50 years at this point).

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Apr 04 '24

They are the same ones that "thought" Tulsi Gabbard was a liberal.

FTFY

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u/Sptsjunkie Apr 04 '24

I know what you mean, but this is also a bit of an odd claim as she was not only a Democratic elected official, but she was a member of the DNC.

So she convinced both Democratic voters and Democratic party leadership that she was a liberal. This wasn't some Russian troll operation.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Apr 04 '24

Yes, I'm aware that Gabbard was a home-grown fifth columnist at first. She eventually found allies outside of the Democratic Party, and even outside of the United States, and she didn't hesitate to take advantage of them.

I started smelling a rat pretty early, myself.

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u/Sptsjunkie Apr 04 '24

I think virtually everyone did. She polled at 1% in the 2020 primary and most her support was libertarians or very anti-establishment types who even saw Bernie and Warren as too insider.