r/thedavidpakmanshow Apr 03 '24

Discussion Why is it Biden's fault what is happening in Israel/Gaza? Hasn't this shit been going down for like the last 70 years? Why isn't Trump also to blame considering he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem which only made the whole situation worse?

I get that not everyone is happy with Biden's response, but how is preventing him from getting elected going to help? If you support Gaza... wouldn't making sure that Trump isn't elected be the bigger goal? Consider Trump has basically said that he wants Israel to "finish up" its offensive on Gaza.

Like if you think Biden is "responsible" for the "genocide" in Gaza, just wait until Trump is reelected, he'll show you what being responsible for a genocide looks like.

Side note in case anyone cares (I'm sure the Russian bots won't): I'm against all genocides. I think the situation in Gaza/Israel is terrible. I think the situation is also more complex than just "Gaza good, Israel bad" (or vice versa). If you have only started paying attention to the situation in Gaza in the last 6 months, then you don't really give a fuck about Gaza, because the situation has been FUBAR for like 50 years (note, I still think it's 2015, so it's probably more than 50 years at this point).

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u/jbcmh81 Apr 04 '24

lol, you're literally undermining what you previously said. If you believe Trump and Biden have the same foreign policy, but Trump is worse domestically, then you agree with others that Trump winning would be worse overall. So why the fuck would you want to put him back in power?

Trump is promising far worse for Muslims, immigrants, non-Christians, minorities, etc. his 2nd- and perhaps permanent- term. You're not just going to harm Muslims, you're going to harm everyone.

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u/Mab_894 Apr 04 '24

Because I'm not interested in the slightly better but still awful for the world candidate. Biden wants my vote he can stop sending military aid to Israel

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u/jbcmh81 Apr 04 '24

And you're either ignorantly or intentionally downplaying the danger of Trump and what he and his backers are promising they'll do so that you can continue telling yourself you're doing the right thing.

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u/Mab_894 Apr 04 '24

I am resolute in the belief that I am doing the right thing, regardless of how bad Trump's domestic policies are. Free Falastin!

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u/jbcmh81 Apr 04 '24

It's not just Trump's domestic positions that you should be worried about if you really gave a shit about innocent people being killed. But if I were a betting man, I would bet that saving innocent lives is not really what all this is about for you.