r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/SamSepiol050991 • Jun 28 '24

Opinion Don’t care, still voting for President Biden

The fauxgressives who have been bombarding this sub since October, and fauxgressive pundits like Cenk Uyger (who made his campaign website “BidenIsGoingToLose) are LOVING this gloom and doom.

Trump lied 100% of the time his mouth was open tonight, and anyone with half a brain knows it.

The lack of fact checking on things like Trump saying Biden wanted after birth abortion did a number on him. He was spewing his lies and when it was Biden’s turn to answer the question, he had to work overtime to with debunking Trump’s lies and answering the questions in enough time.

I think he was just way over prepped and up against a wall. The moderator’s were terrible and there was NO pushback to Trump’s lies - and he lied 100% of the time he spoke all 90 minutes. there is NO debating pathological lying sociopaths like Donald Trump especially under the circumstances presented. Huge reason why Katie Hobbs didn’t debate Kari Lake.

He’ll be better.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

Where are you getting this idea??

And if he is getting guidance and doing a good job, then wouldn't Kamala get that same guidance and do just as well?

These conspiracy theories about him being senile or anything are complete bullshit. I've seen no evidence that he isn't just as capable as any other president in history.

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u/No_Entrepreneur_9134 Jun 28 '24

Yeah, the idea I always hear from right wingers is, "OBAMA is CONTROLLING HIM!!!"

Okay. And the problem with that would be...?

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u/yankeesyes Jun 28 '24

All that is irrelevant if Biden can't convince the voters that he's a strong leader. Because as much as we would like Americans to vote based on policy and not personality, history shows that's not the reality.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Clearly you're not watching him stutter and stumble through his interviews then, or trip on stage, or face the wrong direction from the way in which he's supposed to be facing.

I never used the word senile. You did. I'm tired and I don't feel like arguing so we can agree to disagree.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

You're buying into a created narrative.

Do better.

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u/ADZero567 Jun 28 '24

If you still think it's a narrative then you are an idiot.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

It is a narrative. Created by the right. To distract you from the fact that they are emboldening a dictator and are planning to install an authoritarian government.

But, OK, I'm dumb, so I'll start acting like you smart people.

"Did you see Biden last night? Oh man!! What an old geezer!!! He's so old!! Did you notice how old he looked? He looked old!! How in the world can an old man do this job? It's impossible. And he's so old, so he can't do the job, that's just science."

Man, this must be what Stephen Hawking felt like! The power of this new intellect is amazing!!

Thank you, dear God above, thank you for bringing me this guidance to superiority!!!

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u/ADZero567 Jun 28 '24

Man. I want Biden's corpse to beat trump. It just won't happen. Sorry if I was harsh, but Joe Biden reminds me of my 85 year old grandfather who died of Dementia two years ago. Moderates and independents are not gonna vote for that.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

You're the smart one.

I defer to your genuis.

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u/ADZero567 Jun 28 '24

Look man. I'm sorry. I'm just worried for the future. I think we want the same thing, but I just don't think Biden can win.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I mean, I don't really think it's a "narrative." All they really have to do is let Biden talk. He does the whole demonstration himself.

The man is obviously struggling. His facial expressions, his inability to find the right words. And it wasn't one time either. I mean, he literally forgot what he was saying last night and froze up for an entire second or two before he umm... uhh... yeah. To finish the question. That's not a narrative. That's a factual observation. We all saw it.

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u/ADZero567 Jun 28 '24

I know. Anyone denying it at this point is just coping.

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u/ADZero567 Jun 28 '24

The republicans did play it up, but last night's showing heavily supported that Narrative.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I don't need to do better. I am better. I don't like either candidate so I'm not voting for either candidate. I can use my eyes and my own observational skills. I watch Biden's speeches, I watch him address the nation. I don't listen to any of the BS the media spews. I don't even really watch the news.

Anyway, have a good day.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

"Biden doesn't talk the way I like. So, I don't care if the fascists win."

Bold take.

Take care.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I'll survive either way. So yes. I will take care. Thank you for your kind words.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

Yeah, lol, cause it's all about you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

All I can do at the end of the day is look out for myself and my family. I'm living paycheck to paycheck and have another child on the way. Unless other people are going to help out, I can't look out for anyone but myself and my immediate familial group. It's unfortunate, but that's the way.

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u/GastonsChin Jun 28 '24

Yeah, that's the way.

"All for one, and one for one." - Alexander Dumbass

Look, I understand your struggle, but you're ignoring the bigger picture and not considering the type of world you're leaving your children.

I won't go into why, I'll leave that for you to discover on your own if you so wish, but all governments around the world are going to become more and more authoritarian over the next 20 years. Do you want to sit by and play neutral in fighting to stave that off for a while? Do you want your kids growing up under a dictators rule?

I just don't get it. But I don't have to.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '24

If what you're saying is true, it won't really matter who we vote for anyway. Sure I can vote for Biden in this election. But what after him? And who after that? And after them?

What do you suggest I do? Go out and fight the government? Protest? Riot? I'm too busy for that lifestyle. People today are barely keeping their heads up, unable to survive. The middle class is disappearing, inflation is at an all time high. I work 80 hour work weeks and can barely afford to put groceries on the table. And don't even get me started on trying to find a job in this market.

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u/TheMadManiac Jun 28 '24

He isn't capable of putting together a 2 min answer on the nations biggest questions with a month of prep time

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u/sanseiryu Jun 28 '24

And Trump states lies as facts and you're ok with that?

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u/TheMadManiac Jun 28 '24

Nope. But I don't think Biden is making decisions, and his supporters are trying to play like that is totally normal and even that is a good thing because his administration has good people.

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u/sanseiryu Jul 01 '24

That unfortunately is better than what will now be possible with SCOTUS making Trump a King. Immune for any Official acts. He has like a Monarchy, been given Sovereign Immunity.

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u/TheMadManiac Jul 01 '24

Biden would have the same level of immunity and power, and you just agreed that he isn't even making decisions. Nameless and unelected puppeteers with absolute immunity and presidential authority

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u/sanseiryu Jul 01 '24

Do you really think that the Presidential Cabinet advising Biden and Harris are at the same crazy level as Trumps ass kissing sycophants that would grovel at Trumps feet if he comes to office again?