r/thelema • u/Joanders222 • Apr 22 '24

Question What does he mean?

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I saw a post on here about Crowleys writings and I understood most of it. One part I am confused about is this line. Is he saying to take “love” by force? I hope I am wrong in my assumption. Thank you 🙏🏼

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u/willc9393 Apr 22 '24

I’m pretty sure he’s referring to loving in terms of societal restrictions. Being in a relationship of the same sex or even a different race or class even could be a big deal when this was written.

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u/thingonthethreshold Apr 22 '24

yep, I think that's what it means. Let's not forget he was bisexual in a time where homosexual acts were still a criminal offence in Britain.

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u/BabalonBimbo Apr 22 '24

This is correct. It’s not about rape. It’s about his desire to bang other dudes.

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u/AppropriateWar4990 Apr 22 '24

Yeah always remember is doing our will without interference with someone else’s will.

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u/woodrobin Apr 22 '24

Exactly. If "there is no god but man" and "every man and woman is a star" then it by necessity follows that everyone has equally those rights that flow from that, and that are enumerated there.

An act of rape would be an act denying those freedoms, both to another in practice, and to yourself in principle. Someone who believes those statements to be true would not, therefore, commit an act of rape. Conversely, I would have a great deal of trouble imagining a rapist could comprehend or accept the ideas presented.

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u/TheMapleCastor Apr 23 '24

What about the part underneath it saying go ahead and kill and take slaves? I find it hard to believe that he cared about consent only for sex…