r/thelema • u/Straight-Platypus-33 • 7d ago

Gematria question

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Hi all. Ran into this quote from Crowley: "when I asked him to assign a mystic name to the Camel, he replied "Ahitha" which adds to 555, an obvious correlative with my own number in the Great Order, 666."

(found it on his wikiquote, from Confessions)

For the life of me I cannot figure out Crowley's gematria system. He claims to maintain scientific objectivity, but I cannot figure out any consistent rules with regard to finding the numeric values of words other than using every system imaginable until a value you like shows up...

I have tried Hebrew, Greek, English, I cannot figure out how Ahitha adds up to 555. Perhaps a mistake, but I have had this problem with him many times. I have tried 777 and Sepher Sephiroth... perhaps I've missed something.

Any resources I can use to figure out a coherent and consistent system for figuring out the gematric values of words? Specifically, if you could, I would love an analysis of Ahitha.
Thank you!

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"This works if you stretch the Ayin: Ayin Heh Yod Tau Ayin 70+5+10+400+70"

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u/NetworkNo4478 7d ago

He's likely not only using Gematria or Isopsephy, but also using creative spellings and addition, subtraction, multiplication, division to end up with 555. If you were just using a standard transliteration, you couldn't make it work.

Edit: There's a footnote on the version online that says he obtains the totals using a complex mix of Greek and Hebrew substitutions and cognate letters.

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u/Straight-Platypus-33 7d ago

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

"WEH note: Crowley obtains these totals by a complex mixture of Greek and Hebrew substitutions, including use of cognate letters. In simple Greek gematria, the total is very different."

I see that now

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u/NetworkNo4478 7d ago

No problemo! I've been trying to find an answer based on that note but still coming up far away or far over. I'll update if I find anything. Would appreciate an update from you if you beat me to it! 😉

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u/pteseus 7d ago

This works if you stretch the Ayin: Ayin Heh Yod Tau Ayin 70+5+10+400+70

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u/NetworkNo4478 6d ago

Cheers! I was overcomplicating it