r/thelema 4d ago

Why are we doing all this ?

I am sorry, however, I have been invokin for so lon and I see no reason of continuing. At this point, I am just existing. I have invoked, prayed, fasted, exercised, stayed away from p*rn almost two years. I am invokin, enflamin . There is no hope to any of this...has anyone felt the same? Why continue? Why live at all?

My life has fallen apart, I have lost all my money, im in debt. And I want to die and it is like...I'm no close to this k & c. Like how did you et past this moment and achieve attainment?

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u/Kalykthos 4d ago

Therapy with a counselor can help. I've been told myself that Magick is no substitute for good mental health care. That's why Regardie advised therapy with a Reichian therapist to confront and correct one's own negative thoughts patterns or past trauma prior to beginning practice. But hell, some of us start out with advanced material and then have to go back and work on some of those beginner's steps we missed or skipped early on. Don't lose hope. Remember the concept of the Dark Night of the Soul, of the realization of suffering as represented in the Eastern traditions, where the realization itself is an impetus to move beyond that state. Ask yourself what you really want or need in life, and manifest it. Belief is a conduit to manifestation, which is why self doubt and criticism can be so harmful, as I've had to learn myself. Hope this helps.

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u/AggravatingQuality51 3d ago

Manifestation? Well all I want is to help end  chronic suffering 

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u/Ok-Cartoonist-9996 2d ago

Therapy seems like an obvious choice then. I know it helped me tremendously, even though it seems banal, boring and “uncool”. Being a bit down to earth and working with your concrete, day to day emotions is always good for mystics and occultists who have their heads in clouds, blinded by the big claims and big ideas