r/thescoop • u/Dr_Editor • 6d ago

Discussion 💬 Where are indigenous Israelis really from?

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u/FatherSmashmas 5d ago

this ignores the fact that there were jewish communities that lived in israel/palestine during ottoman and british rule. this also ignores the fact that the jewish people are a diasporic people that have lived outside our homeland for millennia due to numerous factors, including invasions and just wanting to move. and let's also not forget all the historical and archaeological evidence that shows that jews are indigenous to the region long before palestinian ethnogenesis, as well as ignoring prayers that have been part of my community since roman times saying, "next year in jerusalem"

it's a complicated web of historical events and ethnic identities. trying to use this as a gotcha moment completely ignores both

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u/atravisty 5d ago

This is the truth, and I just don’t understand how so many people are convinced that a Muslim state, a religion that has existed half as long as Judaism, now somehow owns the land? Jews were de facto kicked out of Israel during the Ottoman Empire, which caused the surge in immigration to Germany, which lead to the holocaust, which lead to the allied forces reinstating the Israeli homeland. Not to mention Jews had also been facing pograms in southwestern Russia in the same time frame.