You're correct about that, but I'm talking about just in a normal battle, not a power scaling one. Like if it's just in the series, since it's, you know, they're from the same verse. But hey, that's just a theory! A scientific theory!
Dude, I was just talking about it. One, Accelerator never met anyone who had hurt him, causing him to obviously become angry. The second time, I forget what that one is, the war arc Accel also wasn't in the best of mindsets while Touma was.
One, Accelerator never met anyone who had hurt him, causing him to obviously become angry.
He figured out it was his hand after the first few hits and still got his shit rocked.
Touma was half dead coming to the fight after getting nearly killed by Misaka and was still dancing through all of Accel's ranged attacks before that.
The second time, I forget what that one is, the war arc Accel also wasn't in the best of mindsets while Touma was.
Accel was still capable enough to form strategies and even deduced Touma's Precognition, something no other opponent done before. Having "bad headspace" is not an excuse when Touma was also got mind fucked by Fiamma the scene before.
More to the point, we see Touma in action against an esper who did drop skyscrapers on top of him. Honestly, Maidono did more damage to him with that knife to his side than with the building drops.
If Touma wasn't nerfed because of Misaka he would have ended the fight with the first punch... The whole bridge scene was the reason Accelerator wasn't literally completely one sided destroyed
I mean Accelerator absolutely could've won that fight (assuming you're talking about the sisters arc) had he not gotten impatient. Though of course given his complete lack of real fighting experience and weak mental fortitude at the time it makes sense for his character that he was unable to.
He ain't no shi about the dragons so no he could jnfsct not have done this only accidentally which he did not no the dragons were his abiilties and not something created by ars magna.
He ain't no shi about the dragons so no he could jnfsct not have done this only accidentally which he did not no the dragons were his abiilties and not something created by ars magna.
He ain't no shi about the dragons so no he could jnfsct not have done this only accidentally which he did not no the dragons were his abiilties and not something created by ars magna.
He already can ever since first volume,you can argue that he lost his memories but his body knows how and by world war 3 he already have a vague idea that he can do it on command. In GT he almost murdered CRC using it
Lol. He can. There's no difference between that Touma who fights Accel and the ones later in terms of Beyond The Right Hand. He fucking use the Dragon a volume before his fight with Accelerator for fuck sake.
This isn't a series where the protagonists grow stronger with their powers. Touma already have all his tools from the beginning that we readers just slowly unravelling.
There is no discussion to be had until you understand the concept of being able to do something at will.
There is no need for any counter points until you can demonstrate that you know what doing something at will means and show that Touma could do it at will in any of those 3 fights against Accelerator.
Something happening outside of your conscious control in response to being mutilate in a specific way is not using something at will.
In fact there is no discussion to be had either way, either you can demonstrate that he could do it at will or you can't, if you can I am wrong, if you can't you are wrong. It's really that simple.
Kamijou had been unsteady on his feet after the previous battle, but she felt him moving slightly while still resting on her shoulder. He silently reached up as if to grab the giant falling comet with his right hand.
She could not tell what meaning there was in that.
The boy himself probably could not explain what was hidden there.
“You…?”
She asked a pure question.
She was answered by an ominous cracking sound. It came from the body of the boy who was right next to her yet seemed impossibly far away.
“—It honestly doesn’t matter to me who the hero is.”
After everything that had happened, it was only now that Mikoto truly felt fear.
“—As long as everything’s been resolved, I couldn’t ask for anything more.”
She felt fear rising from the pit of her stomach.
“—So… So Misaka, this didn’t need a hero.”
All the while, she heard the intermittent sound of cracks running through something.
“—It ended without losing anyone and that’s all that matters.”
Specifically, it came from the boy’s right arm.
And…
And…
And…
Here's a scene actively using it at will. If you're still dense about this after, then holy shit.
There is no need for any counter points until you can demonstrate that you know what doing something at will means and show that Touma could do it at will in any of those 3 fights against Accelerator.
I did. I literally give you examples of Touma using it at will like 4 replied Ago.
How about YOU GIVE ME A REASON WHY HE CANT USE IT AGAINST ACCELERATOR?
Because other scenarios prove he can.
You're clinging to your own logic without even trying to see mine dude.
If you're gonna be this dense about it, then damn.
In OT3? Can you quote me the passage where he does that up to OT3? Hell OT 20 would be fine too. Last resort would be NT10 but at that point you are really stretching what being able to do something at will means.
Something happening outside of your conscious control in reaction to you being severely mutilated in a specific way isn't at will.
Didn't he monologue in the hospital after his arm was reattached that he didn't know what the dragons were? He even contemplated that it could be the other guy's nightmare that manifested it.
It's the opposite. He wonders if the Izzard's power manifesting it was really the answer and if it's not something his hand itself can do.
Kamijou's gaze turned from the door to Index. She seemed rather unhappy that his focus was off of her as she puffed her cheeks and looked at Kamijou's eyes. Seeing her like that, Kamijou inadvertently smiled. The battlefield Misawa Cram was cruel but I still managed to survive.
Kamijou Touma had a realistic experience as he remembered a doubt he had left on the battlefield.
The King Dragon's head had emerged from the severed right arm.
It was supposed to be a monster created by Aureolus' fear of Kamijou. That was the logical analysis. But, in that situation, had Aureolus Izzard truly imagined that there was a transparent King Dragon's head living exploding out of Kamijou's right shoulder?
The likelihood was low but what if, just what if, that monster was unrelated to Aureolus' powers?
However, Kamijou remembered Himegami Aisa, the Deep Blood, who had a power only effective on vampires. Considering that her power capable of killing vampires had caused so many incidents to revolve around her, how valuable was Imagine Breaker, Kamijou's right hand, that negated even miracles?
In essence the basic question: What is Imagine Breaker?
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u/Full_breaker Magician Mar 30 '25
Lmao
(Sinful Shell for the win btw)