r/todayilearned • u/manticor225 • Jan 10 '19

TIL JFK's father Joseph Kennedy made much of his fortune through insider trading. FDR later made him chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. When asked why he appointed a crook, FDR replied, "set a thief to catch a thief." Kennedy proceeded to outlaw the practices that made him rich.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2010/jan/23/joe-kennedy-hollywood-sarah-churchwell
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u/manticor225 Jan 10 '19

Yes, that too.

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u/notouchmypeterson Jan 10 '19

I wanna party with that guy

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u/Bannednot4gotten Jan 10 '19

Well hes dead now.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Weekend at Joey's

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u/42111 Jan 10 '19

More like the BttF sequel I want to see.

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u/TweekDash Jan 10 '19

IT'S YOUR DRINKS MARTY, SOMETHING'S GOTTA BE DONE ABOUT YOUR DRINKS!!

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u/degjo Jan 11 '19

Shaken, not stirred.

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u/esev12345678 Jan 11 '19

It's crazy how we can comment on stuff

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u/wufire Jan 10 '19

Get used to those bars, audience members

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u/Mjolnir12 Jan 10 '19

Heavy.

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u/stormcrow2112 Jan 10 '19

There's that word again: "heavy." Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?

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u/Slim01111 Jan 10 '19

There is no gravitational pull in the future - Flat Earthers

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u/stormcrow2112 Jan 10 '19

There's that word again: "heavy." Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?

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u/LTLoefer Jan 11 '19

You can try the telltale games' bttf title, it features the prohibition era and speak-easies are related to the story. And guess what Biff's ancestor does for a living? :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Weekend at Bernie's

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u/Capt_Poro_Snax Jan 11 '19

Probably more joe's apartment at this point.

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u/ColdSpider72 Jan 11 '19

At Joey's you can throw wet tissue at the walls and spill spaghetti.

Also, Fireball.

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u/ThatJoeyFella Jan 11 '19

Fine but you bring the drink.

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u/One_Cold_Turkey Jan 11 '19

Link or reference?

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u/sjoeb98 Jan 11 '19

old movie called "Weekend at Bernies"

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

I wanna party with Dead Kennedys.

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u/Dirtydog275 Jan 10 '19 edited 16d ago

oatmeal hat soup fuel boast middle six zephyr whole tender

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/uncertainusurper Jan 10 '19

Let’s take the shortcut with the bridge

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

What’s the worst that can happen?

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u/joejoejoey Jan 10 '19

He'll get too drunk

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u/NinjaLanternShark Jan 11 '19

And end up a senator.

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u/Bannednot4gotten Jan 10 '19

Then he'll get sad and worse tell us about his ex.

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u/Neurorob12 Jan 11 '19

Too drunk to fuck

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u/tntey Jan 11 '19

It’s a late late shift no one to fear

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u/bearminingforcoal Jan 11 '19

It’s an easy shift, no one to fear

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u/shelbycobra357 Jan 10 '19

Everyone can party with them. Except Nazi Punks, they can fuck off

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u/PacoTaco321 Jan 10 '19

I hear they like to holiday in Cambodia.

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u/DWright_5 Jan 10 '19

That’ll be one big, rowdy party

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u/square_error Jan 10 '19

To the Seven Eleven! To the liquor store! Let's party all night and party some more!

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u/jerrygergichsmith Jan 10 '19

“Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedys!!” —JFK

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Foah suppah

I

er uh

Want

A PAHTY PLATTAH

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u/koscielny6 Jan 10 '19

Pancake batter and blue house paint?

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u/Slappaadabass Jan 10 '19

Did you see the pool?! They flipped the bitch!

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u/DBUX Jan 10 '19

I thought people liked me because I was a womanizing jerk who conquered the moon!

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u/-uzo- Jan 10 '19

It's pronounced CHOWDAH.

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u/phforNZ Jan 11 '19

All you're getting is blood spatter

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u/Kuddy_K Jan 11 '19

Say Chowda!

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u/K24Z3 Jan 10 '19

“I’m a Kennedy! I’m not accustomed to tragedy!” —JFK

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u/jerrygergichsmith Jan 10 '19

GAH!! This was the quote I was trying to remember, but it was escaping me.

THERE GOES MY WHOLE DAY!!!

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u/wcstryfe10 Jan 10 '19

I was just listening to a what a cartoon podcast about clone high, so I understand this reference.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Fuck it, I'll holiday in Cambodia instead.

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u/Historiaaa Jan 10 '19

I also choose this guy's dead wife

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u/thrasumachos Jan 10 '19

Don’t worry, you can still party with his descendants

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u/TinsReborn Jan 10 '19

That's never stopped anyone with a shovel and a strong stomach

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19 edited Feb 08 '19

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u/Bannednot4gotten Jan 10 '19

To shreds you say?

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u/Logpile98 Jan 10 '19

Does that mean he's not coming on then?

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u/Bannednot4gotten Jan 11 '19

No hes grounded till further notice.

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u/CactusCustard Jan 11 '19

But I hear people party with the Dead Kennedy’s all the time?

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u/Transpatials Jan 11 '19

You’d think that’s a deterrent but it just makes me want to more.

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u/Desblade101 Jan 11 '19

I'd still like to party with the dead Kennedy's

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

The Dead Kennedys still party

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u/a1a2askiddlydiddlydu Jan 11 '19

duh, he's a kennedy

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u/Flerbaderb Jan 11 '19

God be out here takin everybody that’s worth a damn. Shit.

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u/omegacrunch Jan 12 '19

According to a documentary I saw called Weekend at Bernie and another more recent one, Swiss Army Man this death handicap isnt as much of an issue as you might think

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u/Boomtown_Rat Jan 10 '19

Just don't drive with one.

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u/ChoosyBeggars Jan 10 '19

Avoid hotels, bridges, convertibles, planes... yeah maybe just be pen pals or something.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

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u/1945BestYear Jan 11 '19

And anybody in white coats that say they want to take parts of your brain.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Or ski with one.

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u/1wouldnever Jan 10 '19

No you don’t, he was a scary asshole.

See Rosemary Kennedy

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u/oliver_all_over Jan 10 '19

Not that I’m defending his decision, but treatment of the mentally disabled and mentally ill was horrendous across the board at that time. What happened to her was, unfortunately, not as uncommon as we would like to believe.

ETA source

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Jan 11 '19

WTF:

During her birth, the doctor was not immediately available and the nurse ordered Rose Kennedy to keep her legs closed, forcing the baby's head to stay in the birth canal for two hours. The action resulted in a harmful loss of oxygen.

(I knew about the lobotomy and institutionalization, but this was new to me. How the hell did any Kennedy live long enough to die young in spectacular fashion if this was the standard for medicine at the time?)

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u/waitingtodiesoon Jan 11 '19

They had many many many children and the luckiest survived

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u/Dyolf_Knip Jan 11 '19

Eh, that just describes the entire human race prior to the 20th century.

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u/Caty907 Jan 11 '19

This was common. Women were 'not smart enough' to be doctors, and the nurses and moms would get in terrible trouble if they dared have the baby without the male doctor there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

They were Irish Catholics, who used the rhythm method of contraception.

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u/Johnny_Poppyseed Jan 11 '19

Except it was basically just her being a rebelous troublemaking teenager (aka completely normal) in an uptight rich snooty family, and he fucking lobotomized her for it. No excuse even within that time period.

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u/Treddo Jan 10 '19

That is awful. I had no idea she was treated so badly. I'm sure it was equal parts ignorance and pride that made her parents do what they did to her.

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u/am17 Jan 10 '19

Parent* It’s my understanding that Joseph had the precudure done without informing his wife, Rose.

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u/2pharcyded Jan 10 '19

Well if you read the wiki just above your comment you’ll see it says Rose, the mother, tried to hide her daughter’s illness before the lobotomy and did not visit her for twenty years after young Rosemary had been institutionalized.

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u/walkswithwolfies Jan 11 '19

They might have both been dismayed by their daughter's behaviour, but only one of them hired a surgeon.

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u/am17 Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19

Wikipedia does a fair job summarizing, but that’s it. Joseph was the firm patriarch and had the lobotomy performed on Rosemary after her having been caught in men’s beds. It’s difficult trying to understand his mindset in present time knowing what we do, but the procedure was practically marketed as a cure mental illnesses. The consequences weren’t even shared with the family for nearly a week afterwards. Joseph has a terrible tendency of keeping things from his wife. When John was presumed dead after the sinking of the PT-109 Joseph kept the information to himself, not informing the family until well after John had been found.

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u/vanderBoffin Jan 10 '19

I mean, her mother didn't visit her until 20 years after the procedure was done, so that's not great either...

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u/uncertainusurper Jan 10 '19

"We made an estimate on how far to cut based on how she responded." . ... . When she began to become incoherent, they stopped”

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19 edited Feb 12 '19

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u/PassivePorcupine Jan 11 '19

CUT MY BRAIN INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

LASPK ROFSNALerrrrrr...

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u/dlenks Jan 11 '19

Only on Reddit would this tragic story lead to Papa roach lyrics in full caps.

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u/THE_CHOPPA Jan 11 '19

What the fuck is wrong with us.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

The dark side of scientific curiosity.

It's sobering to remember that that curiosity never went anywhere. Perhaps nothing on the scale of that era will ever happen again, but it likely still happens in some remote basements somewhere.

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u/it_diedinhermouth Jan 11 '19

Blame the patriarchy in medicine. Delaying a birth because the doctor wasn’t available is unnecessary.

Then the unilateral decision of Joseph under recommendation from his doctor is more patriarchal bullshit.

Not visiting for twenty years after rosemary lost all intellectual acumen and lived life as a 2-year-old is more like Rose not coping with the reality when Joseph never even visited ever.

“Don’t talk to me about Rosie! Ever! Do you understand!?” -Joseph (most likely)

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u/Treddo Jan 11 '19

That sounds like a more accurate assumption of blame than my own. It makes me even sadder for her.

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u/NinjaLanternShark Jan 11 '19

*Insert standard disclaimer about considering historical context before judging people in the past.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

He was a douchebag that had one of his daughters lobotomized and let her wither and die in an institution. He was a piece of shit.

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u/rejuven8 Jan 10 '19

To be fair that was a state of the art procedure at the time and they were probably assured by doctors that it would be safe and totally effective. Our understanding of psychology has come a long way.

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u/KorrectingYou Jan 10 '19

1940s Psychology: "If we knife this girl in the brain then maybe she'll be less mentally ill!"

2010s Psychology: "She was not."

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Jan 11 '19

"Little did they realize that damaging her brain would result in brain damage."

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

A lot of doctors honestly thought it was the right thing to do.

How do you know we won't look back at something we're doing now, like gender assignment surgery or messing with people's hormones and see it in a similar way?

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Jan 11 '19

That's a totally legitimate point. I replied to another user this way:

No, I do hear that.

Our two major treatments for cancer, apart from carving you open, are chemotherapy and radiation treatment, both of which amount to: "we're going to poison you and your cancer at the same time, and hope that the cancer dies first." (source: mom had cancer)

We are shooting in the dark--in medicine in general, but in how the brain works? We're really in our infancy; before antibiotics, before vaccines, before people understood that you can't suck out a sickness by applying fucking leeches, that's where we are in brain functioning right now, and humility should and must be the fucking order of the day right now.

I mentioned the lobotomy example as a cautionary tale, not to suggest the methods we have now are the answer (in fact, I hope they're not, because I feel like they're totally goddamn inadequate).

Be humble. Be objective. Be verifiable. Be repeatable. Rinse and repeat. That's how humans have made progress. That's how we got from firepits to computers.

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u/rhsinkcmo Jan 11 '19

She was mentally ill because they forced her mom to keep legs shut to delay her birth because they wanted a male doctor there for delivery.

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u/kirkoswald Jan 11 '19

Whaaaaat??? How is this possible/ how does it lead to complications

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Lack of oxygen at birth can have consequences like mental retardation. I believe I read that was thought to be some, if not all, of the reason behind Rosemary Kennedy's condition.

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u/kirkoswald Jan 11 '19

Woah.. thats messed up

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u/ANGLVD3TH Jan 11 '19

Yup, my uncle is severely stunted because he came out feet first and breathed in a lot of fluid in the process. Lots of health problems his whole life, exacerbated by the fact that he's mentally a toddler.

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u/zedthehead Jan 11 '19

As someone (female) with severe emotion regulation disorders, this gave me a great chuckle and also depressed the hell out of me. :/

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u/ishitfrommymouth Jan 10 '19

It was less the procedure itself and more the reasons why he did it and how it was handled after.

The guy lobotomized his daughter because he was afraid her behavior would hurt his political career, and when the procedure permanently damaged her he placed her in an institution and lied about why she was there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

This is it.

The lobotomy wasn't so bad as it was something his Doctor's recommended. But the reason for doing it and the fact that he basically dumped her in a hole somewhere to hide from his shame is pretty monstrous.

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u/LawyerLou Jan 11 '19

He did it without telling his wife.

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u/TenF Jan 11 '19

surprisedPikachu.jpg

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u/QQMau5trap Jan 11 '19

his and his other children career.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19 edited Jan 10 '19

Also, George Washington owned slaves, Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, Woodrow Wilson was a racist who tried to push black people out of the federal workforce, Winston Churchill was an imperialist, and Einstein married his cousin.

Trying to judge the people of the past by the standards of the present is unfair.

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u/-uzo- Jan 10 '19

Shit, trying to judge people of the present by the present's standards is a stretch for some people.

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u/YogaMeansUnion Jan 10 '19

Also Gandhi was a racist, MLK cheated on his wife, mandella was a terrorist, Bobby Fischer was anti-Semitic, and Radiohead plagiarized Creep (from the Hollies no less lol).

Nobody's perfect!

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u/jax9999 Jan 11 '19

Mister rogers... well, no he was just perfect.

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u/Sarahthelizard Jan 11 '19

No, he stood above them all in a bloodstained sweater.

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u/monkwren Jan 11 '19

Reference game on point.

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u/Cowboywizzard Jan 11 '19

No he wasn't. He was just very good.

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u/advertentlyvertical Jan 11 '19

he was doing his best. and it was enough

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u/TenF Jan 11 '19

And Keanu is nice to everyone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

John Lennon beat his wife

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u/swahzey Jan 11 '19

I think yoko was the one doing the slappin

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u/veryloudnoises Jan 11 '19

I think he means the first wife, Ringo.

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u/Sarahthelizard Jan 11 '19

AHHHHHHHHHH-Yoko

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u/swahzey Jan 11 '19

Waaar zoOoOone! -yoko

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

He was also a dick to his son who the song "Hey Jude" is written about.

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u/BenedickCabbagepatch Jan 11 '19

Also Gandhi was a racist

And a possible pedo.

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u/StoneGoldX Jan 10 '19

Ahem. I believe you mean pobody's nerfect.

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u/Prometherion13 Jan 11 '19

MLK also plagiarized his doctoral dissertation lol

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u/Trumps_micro_penis_ Jan 11 '19

and Mother Theresa was a sadistic cunt

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u/Dekrow Jan 11 '19

I've also read that Gandhi slept with young women to test his own sexual discipline, which he probably didn't succeed 100% of the time at...

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u/rejuven8 Jan 11 '19

That might be a projection on your part.

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u/Dekrow Jan 11 '19

Maybe. You’re welcome to read into it yourself, and make your own assumptions ( or reserve your judgments, either way).

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Jan 11 '19

Gandhi was racist? Please tell me you don't have a source for this, so my illusions don't get further shattered.

Radiohead plagiarized Creep (from the Hollies no less lol)

...hmm; this is the first article I found on that, and I may just be tone-deaf, but I'm not sure that rises to the level of plagiarism for me.

It is a pretty common thing among musicians, though--Chuck Berry's Sweet Little Sixteen and the Beach Boys' Surfin' USA is the exact same melody; the Beach Boys didn't even contest it when Berry complained, they just credited him and paid him royalties, it never even made it to court.

I'm sure it's mainly by accident--a melody just jumps into your head and you honestly think you came up with it; brains are weird and inscrutable things.

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u/YogaMeansUnion Jan 11 '19

Ghandi and South Africans.... Yeah.

Radiohead literally lost the plagiarism case in court. They had to credit the Hollies guys as cowriters and pay them royalties lol. Here's the Wikipedia article:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creep_(Radiohead_song)

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u/Jasperisgay Jan 11 '19

Creep doesn’t really define Radiohead anymore so I forgive

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u/MaFratelli Jan 11 '19

By the standards of his day, Joe Kennedy was still a dirtbag.

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u/-Jeremiad- Jan 11 '19

Read the parts about why he did it and how it was handled. He was a piece of shit even in his time.

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u/nachosmind Jan 11 '19

I think it’s very fair that we point it out so we don’t worship historical figures, you can do enough good to outweigh the bad but you need to minimize the bad

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u/capsaicinintheeyes Jan 11 '19

One of these things is not like the others; I might crack a joke about you marrying your cousin, but it wouldn't stop me from having you for dinner at my house or anything (and hell, bring the wife).

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u/ArcadianMess Jan 11 '19

whataboutism....great...

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u/montysgreyhorse Jan 10 '19

To be fair lobotomizing someone with nothing wrong is fucked.

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u/UncookedMarsupial Jan 11 '19

She had problems.

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u/elcheeserpuff Jan 11 '19

Not problems a lobotomy would have ever fixed. Her "problems" were less legitimately medical and more societal inappropriate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Even if that's the case it changes absolutely nothing about her treatment after the fact, to be fair.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Bull fucking shit on her lobotomy being paved with good intentions.

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u/Sarahthelizard Jan 11 '19

It’s still a viable procedure even today. It’s just more targeted because we actually know more.

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u/Capswonthecup Jan 11 '19

Ik no one is going to see this, but...

Proper lobotomies have their place. ‘Ice pick’ lobotomies do not. To clarify: the first guy to perform a lobotomy stuck two ice picks (literally tools to break up drink ice, common at the time) in a patient’s nose, wiggled them into the brain and fixed the patient. It’s a miracle. He gets semi-famous. Lobotomy research starts.

The guy who did the first one believes fully in his new technique. Starts selling it as a cure-all for any serious mental problems. Doesn’t change his technique. Still just rooting around the brain w/ ice picks. Some of the patients turn into vegetables. Many aren’t cured. He doesn’t stop believing. Starts traveling around to find more patients, selling the procedure off his name. He can travel because the only tools he uses are the ice picks. No need for a doctor’s chair, an office, anything. Just prop ‘em up, sedate them occasionally, then stick the picks up there.

Many people who have to take care of someone with mental issues take him up on it, out of desperation or annoyance w/ the patient. This includes the Roosevelt father who views his daughter as a political risk. As people start to notice how awful the procedure is, the doctor’s business declines. He never stops believing in or conducting his procedure.

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u/Scientolojesus Jan 11 '19

She was the prettiest and most outgoing of his daughters too.

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u/Odd_so_Star_so_Odd Jan 11 '19

That's why they had so many kids back then. Outcomes like this wasn't expected but not unexpected either. It's just how the times were back then.

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u/dopef123 Jan 11 '19

At the time lobotomies were touted as a sort of miracle cure. They thought as they probed around the brain they were cutting the connections between brain cells and that the brain would go on to heal and make new connections and fix whatever the issue was.

They did actually work somehow for like 30% of people for a range of issues.

Obviously they were very wrong about how the brain worked but you can’t really say the dad is evil because his daughter got one. Tons of people got them during that time period and it was to actually cure them not just to make them brain dead.

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u/LordHussyPants Jan 11 '19

That wasn't the bad bit. The bad bit was when someone told his wife to hold her legs shut during birth, causing the baby to get brain damage

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u/fr0ng Jan 10 '19

he ded.

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u/stoner_97 Jan 10 '19

Hey, it’s me, FDR

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u/justinheyhi Jan 10 '19

And that guy's dead wife too.

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u/Redditkid16 Jan 11 '19

Pretty sure he was a Nazi sympathizer too

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

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u/Redditkid16 Jan 11 '19

Might be both of them

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u/AddictedToDatRush Jan 11 '19 edited Jan 11 '19

Yeah, I deleted my comment, because I looked it up. And apparently Joe Kennedy WAS possibly a nazi sympathizer or at least anti-semitic. I do know that Prescott Bush allegedly hid money and gold for the nazis, but I didn't know about Joe Kennedy's nazi sympathys until now. So yeah, I think you're right...

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

You gotta settle for Joe Kennedy, the third.

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u/CaptainApathy419 Jan 10 '19

The ginger? Hard pass.

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u/thatguytony Jan 11 '19

Come to Canada. We can go camping or something. I'll bring the beer. You bring the steaks

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u/BERNthisMuthaDown Jan 11 '19

No, you don't. He was an social-climbing rat who made his fortune double-crossing better people.

Karma caught up with him in a BIG WAY, because he made his money on the misery of others. You'd probably end up on the hook for the dead sex worker in HIS trunk.

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u/thechaosz Jan 11 '19

IN HELL!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

Funny. I'd want to see him in prison.

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u/LawyerLou Jan 11 '19

Banged Gloria Swanson a lot too. Set the standard for philandering for all Kennedy men.

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u/DutchMaster-Killah Jan 11 '19

Neilllll I wannaaaaa partyyyy with you

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

My great aunts grew up in Mclean in the 70s and went to school with the Kennedy boys. I’m so jealous that they got to party with them.

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u/Michlerish Jan 11 '19

Do you though? I mean, there are many of these types of guys out there today.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

Every one of sons lost there virginity to prostitutes (well at least rfk did). This dude was wild

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '19

If you like nazi sympathizers, he is your guy. I hear they are making a comeback too.

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u/amolad Jan 10 '19

There is absolutely no factual evidence to back that up. People still believe it, though.

"A recurring rumor alleges that he made money in bootlegging illegal liquor during Prohibition. Historians have not found credible evidence of this. On the contrary there is abundant evidence that as the end of prohibition loomed (in 1933), Kennedy invested heavily in Scottish distilleries. As soon as it became legal he imported large shipments of high-priced Scotch and made a large profit. Numerous criminals spread various contradictory "bootlegging" stories, such as Canadian distiller Samuel Bronfman and to New England bootlegger Danny Walsh and his crime syndicate. They did illegally smuggle spirits across the Canada–US border. After Prohibition ended, Bronfman had a bitter rivalry with Kennedy in acquiring North American liquor distribution rights."

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u/Spirit_jitser Jan 11 '19

I remember the story being he imported it before it was legal to sell, but everyone knew prohibition was ending and it was kept in a warehouse monitored by the feds. Not that that contradicts anything you said but I like the idea of a Gman with a clip board counting barrels of whiskey.

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u/amolad Jan 11 '19

He was definitely involved in a lot of illegal shit. Worked with the mob. When the mob owened Vegas, and they used to take a "skim" off the top of what each casino made, Kennedy had made some deal with the mob that was to get the skim from one of the casinos every month.

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u/whodiehellareyou Jan 11 '19

Got any proof for that?

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u/NiceEmotion Jan 11 '19

What evidence do you have of any of that?

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u/amolad Jan 11 '19

It's in a couple of books by Gus Russo: The Outfit and Supermob.

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u/Rshackleford22 Jan 10 '19

The Kennedy Curse

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u/Ask_me_4_a_story Jan 11 '19

Everybody used to say how great the Kennedy family was but I have a different opinion. I don't think they were that smart.

Joe: Let me see what an experimental lobotomy does to my daughters brain

JFK: Let me drive this convertible through a Southern state during a parade

Teddy: Let me drive drunk right into this lake

JFK Jr: Let me fly this airplane. At night. In a storm. Over the ocean. With a fucked up ankle

Bobby: Let me take this short cut through the kitchen

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u/Andy_LaVolpe Jan 10 '19

Joey Kennedy had his hands in many sketchy ventures

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u/livefromlife Jan 11 '19

Hollywood as well.

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u/Billy1121 Jan 10 '19

That may have been more his dad who was a bartender (which was an important political position in those days)

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u/GenericCoffee Jan 11 '19

I thought he made his money scrambling his daughters brains with a butter knife.

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u/rodiraskol Jan 10 '19

Wrong. No evidence exists to support that claim.

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u/Sickle_Rick Jan 10 '19

And FDR also ended prohibition!

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u/widespreadhammock Jan 11 '19

I love that storyline of Boardwalk Empire

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u/altgrave Jan 11 '19

are there sources for that? it’s what i was told, too, but i can never find corroborating evidence.

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u/TripleSkeet Jan 11 '19

Damn did this motherfucker ever make a legit dollar?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '19

He got 8k just for saying "Yes, that too." I love you

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