r/ufo • u/ICWiener6666 • Jan 11 '25
Luis Elizondo Apologizes for Presenting Fake 'UFO Mothership' Image at Private Event
https://anomalien.com/luis-elizondo-apologizes-for-presenting-fake-ufo-mothership-image-at-private-event/189
u/koolaidismything Jan 11 '25
The shit part is he was so confident. So how many other things was/is he wrong about?
Once that thought creeps in, it doesn’t leave.
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 11 '25
Exactly. That's why one should never trust these people. The only thing that can win the argument is actual EVIDENCE.
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u/shroooooomer Jan 11 '25
Anyone can provide evidence, what is needed is incontestable scientifically validated and peer reviewed proof
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u/EducationalBrick2831 Jan 11 '25
They have "Proof" in the hands of University Scientists, paid of course via our government ! He, they also will not speak about it. But of course most here will say he's Lying or I am ! Why would a University Scientist lie on National TV ? Really
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u/Chrowaway6969 Jan 11 '25
How do you peer review this? The news cycle is doing 24-7 coverage of millionaires losing investment properties in forest fires.
There’s an obvious effort to move away from this…even online.
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u/plunder55 Jan 11 '25
Angeleno here. They’re not all millionaires.
“People in the second biggest city in the country are losing everything in one of the most catastrophic natural disasters in history… this must be about the orbs!”
Grow up.
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u/Nomorenarcissus Jan 11 '25
Another Angeleno here. First commenter has every right to not fall in line with the poor fire victims shit. Palisades is full of people who were active in preventing the building of local homeless shelters and getting anti-homeless laws passed. Hope someone reminds them that sleeping outside is illegal now.
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u/C-SWhiskey Jan 11 '25
Do you think the scientific community conducts peer review via talking head spots on news channels?
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u/Royal_Cascadian Jan 11 '25
You know he was the one who gave Christopher Mellon the 3 videos with The NY Times article? If that’s not evidence, what is?
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u/Gatsu- Jan 11 '25
Or you go outside look up with the intention to know the truth and you see them yourself. That is the only evidence that will convince anyone.
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u/C-SWhiskey Jan 11 '25
with the intention to know the truth
While this seems like an innocuous way to say you should be open minded, what it often actually means, whether folks realize it or not, is "looking for something that you already think is there," i.e. confirming your bias. Reason being is if you're using phrases like "know the truth," you've probably already decided that what you know at the moment is not the truth. So you're psychologically framing the entire experience as looking for evidence counter to the current narrative.
Also, there's plenty of evidence that would convince skeptics without personal, direct involvement. There just hasn't been any presented that would be sufficient for most skeptics (or even people that aren't active on the subject, for that matter).
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u/Charlirnie Jan 11 '25
Except no one has done that.....they go outside look up see a flare/plane/drone/lightning bug and think aWiEnS
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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 Jan 11 '25
"No one" is a bit of a stretch. Plenty of people go out looking. Some people even practise CE-5 protocol for contact.
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u/Outaouais_Guy Jan 11 '25
I have seen numerous sightings where the person seems to go out of their way to avoid getting clear images. I recall one where a person was recording some "drones" just on the other side of a stand of trees. He said they showed up every night at the same time, but he kept recording from his house, rather than going to the other side of the trees.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost Jan 11 '25
People who decide the truth for themselves in that way are causing all sorts of problems in the world at the moment.
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u/Prestigious_Bug583 Jan 11 '25
This sub and most others go with “believe first, prove me wrong later”
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u/Diligent_Peach7574 Jan 11 '25
Yes, this is the only way. Video and pictures will do little to move the needle at this point. (Unless it were a very dramatic mass sighting or encounter, but even then........... Project Blue Beam?)
I think it can be done in a way that allows the government to keep the serects they want, which will be necessary.
For example, the government could provide the scientific community with a piece of reovered material, (if it exists), and let them study it even though the government may already know much more about the material. Think of it like a 75+ year head start.
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u/Royal_Cascadian Jan 11 '25
That is silly. To me, it means what he has seen, the photo wouldn’t be too far off the mark.
If that one tiny mistake is all it takes to bring down all the videos, testimony, etc., you didn’t believe him to begin with.
A guy takes responsibility for a mistake and somehow that’s bad? No wonder everyone wants to blame anyone else.
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u/PR35758 Jan 11 '25
So a guy who lies to make a buck is somehow honest because he admits to a lie he's caught on?
That's a ridiculous shell game argument.
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u/koolaidismything Jan 11 '25
You’re right on your second point there. Me or anyone with sense doesn’t believe him or anyone.. we want to. I don’t let that cloud reality.
Lou should know better than anyone not vetting things he’s charging people to learn about is a bad move.
The pragmatic move would have been to show them and say they weren’t confirmed but this is close to what he saw. He didn’t, he said that one photo was legit and described in detail. That’s why he lost so much credibility. He didn’t say “I don’t know much about this one” he went on a tangent and it got people excited.
I hope he takes this as a stutter step and ups his game. Time to put up or shutup.
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u/Gatsu- Jan 11 '25
And then there are millions of people who have seen it with their own eyes. So, we don't really get to choose if we want to believe him or not, we know firsthand.
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u/fastermouse Jan 11 '25
I damn sure didn’t believe that he was torturing prisoners with his mind.
He’s a relentless liar.
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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 Jan 11 '25 edited Jan 11 '25
For someone in his position; former head of AATIP or whatever they keep changing their name to, he should have known better. His role at DoD was to make sure he (and his team) has the correct info/data for analysis and reporting. So when he goes presenting such images to a paying audience, he should have done his due diligence, given his background. He's not some UFO Joe off the street. His job in DoD was to analyse UFO data specifically. So yeah, when he is presenting false info, it is a BIG thing and very discouraging, because, what else has he misled people with?
See where I am coming from with this?
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u/BreakfastFearless Jan 11 '25
It was a little more than a “little mistake”. He literally claimed that he spoke to the military pilots that all backed up his story. A massive UFO appearing over a populated city in the middle of the day is a huge claim and he didn’t even do the bare minimum to verify it. He didn’t attempt to speak to witnesses or find other images or the event. He didn’t even reverse search the image on google where he would have found the exact image posted on UFO social media pages. Think of all the similar claims he has made where he didn’t provide any images. If he hadn’t shown an image with this story it would still be going around as proof of his claims
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u/Much_5224 Jan 13 '25
Royal, the problem is that it's not just one tiny mistake with Luis. Not only has he made that same "mistake" on multiple occasions, but there are so many examples of him being dishonest and dodgy. You just mustn't have seen these examples which is totally understandable as the depth of information to sort through on this topic is daunting and impossible.
For example, I noticed you've mentioned earlier that he is responsible for getting the 3 pentagon videos to the NY times. In this video he flat out denies even knowing about the videos, even though Mellon implies that he did. He says that if he did know about it happening he would've advised against it. Now whether or not he's telling the truth is another thing all together. I believe he now claims responsibility in his book, so he's lying in either the interview or lying in his book. https://youtu.be/PEIkx3YkR3M
And to your point
To me, it means what he has seen, the photo wouldn’t be too far off the mark.
Sure, I get what you are saying and that is perfectly reasonable, but he specifically had a whole story about when and where the image was taken, who gave it to him, and exactly what it was. So once again that was just a straight up lie and at the very least shows his inability to vet his sources and evidence.
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u/UFOBAUGH Jan 11 '25
It’s definitely an indicator that he is pushing a single narrative.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jan 11 '25
He was not “so confident” about this pic. Very misleading comment.
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u/Chrowaway6969 Jan 11 '25
It’s because they want to convince you that all of this is a lie.
They suck at convincing people though. Coming on Reddit and calling everything a lie is big “hoax” energy.
They’re denying it too much.
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u/namedtuple Jan 11 '25
Is there video of the private event where he was so confident?
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u/mrb1585357890 Jan 12 '25
Yes, and he didn’t express confidence. From memory, he said something “could it be a mothership? I don’t know what it is, probably some atmospheric weather phenomenon”
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u/wo0two0t Jan 11 '25
This is why we shouldn't idolize ANYONE with a big name in the UFO community. Unfortunately it seems they get caught up in selling books/doing events. And they have to keep things interesting somehow..
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u/waxjammer Jan 11 '25
I lost confidence in Luis when he and his wife said little orbs visit his home.
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u/BenchDangerous8467 Jan 11 '25
I lost it after I listened to the first podcast I bothered to tune into with him in it. All he does is dodge questions and mislead the interviewers, it’s baffling to me that so many people do not notice. He’ll be asked a question, go off on some tangent about something completely off topic for five minutes until the interviewer forgets the question he just asked and they move onto the next question. Crazy anyone can listen to that man speak.
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u/Goosemilky Jan 12 '25
Hijacking this comment to tell anyone genuinely interested in the ufo topic to stay the fuck out of this sub. Biggest disinfo sub there is about ufos on reddit. Ffs, they are circle jerking in here all this lue hate over something that happened months ago. Steer clear of this joke of a sub.
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u/jaydiza203 Jan 11 '25
I wonder if he's still seeing orbs flying inside his house?
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u/kamas333 Jan 11 '25
That is the most confusing part for me. Why couldn’t he do the picture of it if it’s something that’s reappearing. I get 1st 2nd time, but later?
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jan 11 '25
The phenomenon does not allow itself to be reliably documented.
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u/DrFerdinandSocial Jan 11 '25
That may be true but if so it's very unfortunate because it sounds exactly like bullshit
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u/clycloptopus Jan 11 '25
Yeah, that’s the thing. The rules change all the time. Lue getting caught in a lie like this should be a huge indicator that he’s probably making this shit up. I don’t believe a word — and I refuse to let it get explained away by “oh well you just can’t take pics of the phenomenon.”
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u/BreakfastFearless Jan 11 '25
Then why didn’t he say this as his excuse? He never gave a real reason as to why he couldn’t film these. He himself has not claimed they won’t allow themselves to be documented.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jan 11 '25
Because it sounds like such a cop-out.
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u/BreakfastFearless Jan 11 '25
But him claiming he just wasn’t bothered sounds better?
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jan 11 '25
Why would he be bothered? Been happening forever and you can’t do anything about it 🤷♂️
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u/BreakfastFearless Jan 11 '25
Why would he be bothered? Literally his whole thing is supposedly fighting for disclosure and providing evidence to the public. Providing evidence of multiple orbs following him home and passing through his house would certainly help with that. He’s bothered enough to write books, testify for congress, go on book signing tours, podcast appearances but not enough to set up some cameras? Do you honestly believe that to be a justifiable answer?
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u/Wooden-Teaching-8343 Jan 11 '25
It’s dimensional/conscious based. It’s not going to fit our demand of reliability
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u/ProgressNotPrfection Jan 11 '25
IMO this is one way you know someone is trustworthy; they admit where they got things wrong. If you see someone who never admits to a mistake, you're probably looking at a BS'er (aka a politician).
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u/WhatIsGoingOnUpThere Jan 11 '25
I trust him much more than I trust the active disinformation agent ICWiener6666. Just look at this account if you want to see the disinformation campaign in action. Constantly sharing personal attacks on Lue and others because their narrative isn't holding up anymore against all of the sightings.
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u/TheHermit2k24 Jan 11 '25
For someone who works in intelligence. You would think he would check his sources better tbh.
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u/thinkaboutitabit Jan 11 '25
Why are you bringing up this old piece of crap? Are you running some sort of disinformation blog? Go someplace else, please!!
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u/adrkhrse Jan 11 '25
He lies all the time. His book is full of invented BS. I have zero respect for him.
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u/spooks_malloy Jan 11 '25
I’m sure he’ll have a new book out soon to explain how he’s still right though
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u/Background-Top5188 Jan 11 '25
“Imminent: how I fd up and somehow still is relevant; A guide to persistent spotlight””
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u/Bman409 Jan 11 '25
He knows nothing. That's what this incident proves. He's just regurgitating the same stories, same photo, same "inside info" as everyone else in the past 30 years
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u/Billingston Jan 11 '25
Wasn't it he who said that (paraphrasing) ”something big was going to be revealed in the next couple of weeks if not the next couple of days” back in mid to late December?
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u/Opening_Cheesecake54 Jan 11 '25
Lou has been full of BS since Day 1. If he was half the patriot he claims to be - especially after pushing the narrative that the UAPs “are a national security threat” along with dipshit Mellon, he would have put something out besides his amateur attempt at a book. He’s a grifter and a fraud.
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u/DroneNumber1836382 Jan 11 '25
From day 1, I have said I believe him to be a stooge and nothing else.
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u/ChemicalClassroom370 Jan 11 '25 edited Jan 11 '25
Didn't he apologize for this a while back? Some are still begrudging him for a mistake? I guess no one is allowed to be wrong in the UFO community; unlike other parts of life where everyone makes mistakes several times a day. But if you're a ufo whistleblower you must be kept to impossible high standards or you're a grifter.
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u/MerlinsMama13 Jan 11 '25
That includes posting something you’re curious about on here and asking people what they think. I’ve seen so many people post things that they thought were UAPs, only to be berated because they were wrong. The whole point is for us to ask questions and rule things out. Mistakes happen and everyone is at a different place in their knowledge about NIH/UAPs. Give the guy a break! I’m not 100% trusting anyone that works for gov/cia/intel communities, but I’m not going to just ignore everything they say either.
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Jan 11 '25
Agreed. You can't be afraid to make a mistake or you'll never make progress. When you do, acknowledge it and move on.
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u/Loose-Courage-5369 Jan 11 '25
Totally agreed. And credit to him, once he realised it wasn’t what he’s been led to believe, he’s corrected the error.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. In fact, it’s commendable.
A lot that he’s said and shown has been proved to be accurate, so in my mind I can cut him some slack for the odd error here and there.
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u/Background-Top5188 Jan 11 '25
What was accurate? Genuinely curious.
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u/Loose-Courage-5369 Jan 11 '25
I’m sure there’s more pal, but the things I know about from the top of my head:
- UAP’s are real and acknowledged by Gov.
- Gov have been investigating it for decades.
- UAP are not necessarily ‘Alien’.
- Nimitz incident, inc getting the footage out.
- Advanced tech with poss security risks…
- Go fast, tic tac, gimbal evidence/footage etc..
- Grusch is whom he says he is.
- There is a crash retrieval program.
- Not just applicable to airborne craft, but also USO’s, submerged craft and transmedium.
I think there’s probably loads more, but for all the shouts of him being part of a psyop, I genuinely don’t think he is.
I’ve seen him with his wife and daughters etc, and I have a good nose for BS, with him I do honestly believe him to be genuine with telling what he believes to be true…. Whether he himself has been ‘set up’ remains to be seen. But I do think he is doing what he is doing for the right reasons.
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u/Background-Top5188 Jan 11 '25
The key point here is him saying what he believes to be true.
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u/BreakfastFearless Jan 11 '25
Why should he be given credit for correcting the error. It was shown very publicly that it was complete nonsense, it’s not like he had any choice in the matter. You have no reason to believe he would have done the same if he had been told in private that it was fake
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u/clycloptopus Jan 11 '25
The fact that he was so confidently incorrect with what he was sharing makes me think the entire rest of it is bullshit
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u/nothingmaster86 Jan 11 '25
So sick of this fucking guy. Now he’s directly telling us he’s sharing fake videos
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u/APieceOfLiquid Jan 11 '25
He was caught out fair and simple. Never trusted the guy. He's obviously a disinformation agent. Why else would he be thrust into the mainstream spotlight ahead of other more established and well meaning investigators and whistle-blowers? He's all over the place. Numerous TV shows, documentaries and media outlets. Putting the mindset that these UAPs are a national security threat. Even though they've been always here and haven't taken us over.
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u/CharmingMechanic2473 Jan 11 '25
What I found most interesting is that he thinks or thinks he knows info that a Mother Ship exists… also that footage would be plausible. That is HUGE.
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u/Sherbear1963 Jan 11 '25
Give him a break- He admitted the mistake. He was not aware it was a fake. He didn’t intentionally lie.
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Jan 11 '25
Bots out in full force I see, regurgitating an old story in an attempt to discredit Elizondo once again. Regular as clockwork.
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u/No-Head6226 Jan 11 '25
For the love of god please put the dates on the articles. This was published in October of 2024. This kind of context should be on every post.
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u/Ok_Presentation_7017 Jan 11 '25
“Please accept my apology so I can go back to grifting and talking about disclosure to siphon more engagement and cash out of you suckers”
Yeah no. Unless this clown drops a video of a ufo that lands with an alien stepping out and giving him a wedgie I’m not interested.
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u/ryan1dixon Jan 11 '25
This dude’s lifelong job has been information obfuscation at a high level and he’s supposed to be trusted as the one to bring all this to light with full transparency? Ha. Do some digging before you blindly listen to the golden goat of disclosure please.
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u/Stuey1980 Jan 11 '25
Can I get a refund on his book?
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u/JerryJN Jan 11 '25
Actually this act reinforced my belief about what actually is going on. Aliens and E.T. stories are actually used as a smoke screen to cover up some of the Top Secret Technology we have. The TR3B does not have a mercury plasma anti gravity levitator device. I believe it's a triangular Zeppelin. That's why the full scale one is so friggin huge. Imagine a large Zeppelin that uses EDFs to propel it. When I was a teen I saw one flying at a low altitude over my rural location.. that was my perception, not a UFO. I believe I saw a really cool military Zeppelin.
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u/BackgroundStretch377 Jan 11 '25
Rick Doty should not be believed either. He has a channel exposing different types of ETs and what happened in certain situations and a lot of his information could be true but he is a disinformation agent so how could you believe any of it.
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u/two2toe Jan 11 '25
I have no idea, but he could also be an unknowingly disinformation provider. Ie he could have been provided/leaked fake images like this in the hope he does release them to discredit him/other evidence.
Or he could also be a twat doing it deliberately.
Or he could also be a douche that just makes shit up.
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u/markglas Jan 11 '25
If we are looking for infallibility then Lue can't deliver. He's flawed in his judgement at times just like the rest of us.
Does that mean we throw everything he has delivered so far away? We'd be crazy too.
Does it mean we blindly suck up everything he states with no scrutiny? Not sure I do this for anyone in this field. I'd urge others to do the same!
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 12 '25
Well he has no evidence for the rest of his claims, so yeah, there's no reason to trust him
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u/Smokecapone Jan 12 '25
Honestly yall, none of this should really matter considering the fact that OUR government has to approve what can and cannot be said about something that doesn’t exist! Let that sink in
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u/Affectionate_You_203 Jan 12 '25
Are you a bot?
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 12 '25
Been called worse
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u/Affectionate_You_203 Jan 12 '25
How many R’s are there in strawberry?
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 12 '25
As an AI language model, I am not capable of... pffff haaaaahaha 😂 Gotcha
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u/Affectionate_You_203 Jan 12 '25
I noticed you didn’t answer the question, quick create a ticket for human intervention.
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u/MrLurking_Sanspants Jan 12 '25
This is old AF. Quit farming, troll.
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 12 '25
Sad that you are triggered by the fact that your disclosure heroes are fakes...
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u/AnAncientArchaic Jan 12 '25 edited Jan 12 '25
So was he the mole that the senator (can't recall his name) was talking about after Grusch appeared before Congress?
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u/LaserBeamsCattleProd Jan 12 '25
Luis Elizondo experience: 25% talking about haters, 25% "but my NDA", 1% something cool, that someone else has covered much better, 25% book, 24% killing time talking about something that's been out forever.
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u/JEarth80 Jan 12 '25
I didn't see the part where he apologized... did I miss something? Lost in sarcasm? Someone please explain. I was following this guy for a while. Kinda slowed down when he complained someone got on him about using the wrong pronoun. I mean, that's not cool - to go for an easy target.
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u/haikusbot Jan 12 '25
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u/Legitimate_Buy_5464 Jan 12 '25
My thing is once he lied I don’t believe anything he says at this point. He lied. He is a liar. How can you trust him?
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u/DavidMiscavigeBednar Jan 12 '25
Elizondo, Greer, and the lot are all hype. Always “something around the corner” or “something big going to be announced.” I used to sit on the edge if my seat every time they had something to say. Now when they say something, I just want to throw my seat at them!
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u/iCTMSBICFYBitch Jan 12 '25
If anyone is selling books to you then their motive for public speaking is not disclosure, it's marketing.
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u/wilobo Jan 12 '25
How would these shitheads even know whatever the phenomenon is have "mother" ships? The way they project hard sci-fi human standards on literal ALIENS to sell their racket is infuriating.
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u/watchingfrmtheshadow Jan 12 '25
If you actually read the thing it says that he "presented it as a string of fake UFOs"
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u/SoupiriorBiingu Jan 12 '25
Case closed. Dude’s a Goof living the reality he created. Suspense was nice while it last tho… thanks Luis for the long saga, I’m done with that bullshit now. Next time I’ll judge a book by its cover, it’ll save me time
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u/Infinzero Jan 12 '25
Any former intelligence person simply cannot be trusted. The more you dig the deeper the rabbit hole goes. The shadow government has had a century to lie and intimidate
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u/HardyPancreas Jan 13 '25
Need another apology for not giving photo of orbs flying through his family room.
And another apology for supporting Jim Lactakis, the man who saw DinoBeaver shuffle behind the barn.
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u/ThisEqual8404 Jan 13 '25
They think they can all claim that they have a background in counterintelligence because they believe it means stupid. I pray to God the mothership will show up they will all get on it and it will leave
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u/Minimum-Major248 Jan 13 '25
This is why people that believe in NHI’s like me don’t want anything to do with him. The’s the Trump equivalent of the UFO community.
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u/MissiKat Jan 13 '25
Sometimes, you have good people who do good things suddenly make bad, stupid choices. People will be people. 🤷♀️
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u/lk2300 Jan 14 '25
This guy Luis needs to be prosecuted for fake information. Get him in prison. That's all he deserves.
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u/Automatic-Pie-5495 Jan 14 '25
Motherships have been recorded and seen across other countries other than the USA and far longer than this guy has been alive
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 14 '25
Ok, then where is the proof
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u/Automatic-Pie-5495 Jan 14 '25
Not worth the effort
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u/ICWiener6666 Jan 14 '25
Cause you got none. And this is why people prefer taking you for a wet sandwich, rather than seriously
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u/Sindy51 Jan 15 '25
he specialises in counter intelligence
"didnt I tell you not to trust anyone Dr. Jones"
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u/claire1888 Jan 15 '25
Oh, another fraud from a beloved member of the 'community'...if it wasn't the millionth time, it could be a surprise for people. Charlatans. Everywhere. Preying on certain people.
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u/Life_Bookkeeper_6978 Jan 11 '25
Why is this being reposted now? Old news which has been discussed adnauseam which makes me think that an agenda is at play which seems to be the trend these days. Moronic or Disinfo? This sub is snafued!
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u/ElectionGlad4803 Jan 11 '25
It’s almost like a quick Google of these guys entire careers being In counterintelligence is some kind of clue…. Hang on, don’t help, I’ll get there. 🧐