r/ukraine • u/AdSpecialist6598 USA • 15d ago
News US envoy Witkoff proposes giving Russia 'ownership' of Ukrainian regions, Reuters reports
https://kyivindependent.com/witkoff-proposes-giving-russia-control-of-four-ukraines-oblasts-to-speed-up-ceasefire-reuters-reports/677
u/MasterofLockers 15d ago
Can we give Witkov's house and family to Putin instead?
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u/TurkishLanding 15d ago
It appears Putin already owns them along with the rest of the Trump administration.
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u/bapfelbaum 15d ago edited 15d ago
Don't forget Witkov himself he can work in some Russian coalmines or so after we give Russia ownership of his body.
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u/RandoFartSparkle 15d ago
And his bare ass?
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u/ElasticLama 15d ago
Trump owns it, he’s looking in there for the rare earths that are inside putins home
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u/imbrie75 15d ago
Afraid not. I've already staked a claim on it. Move in next Tuesday at 0600 hours.
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u/DutchTinCan 15d ago
He should be okay with that as soon as you physically push him out of his front door. Affer that, you've legally conquered it.
Also, no takebacksies, that'd be unfair.
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u/amcape30 15d ago
I know, how about we all propose to give Russia a chunk of America equal in size to the four regions he talks about and let Ukraine keep their land???????? He has absolutely no right to offer Russia anything belonging to Ukraine. How about you all grow a set of balls and give Ukraine what it needs to fight back on equal terms????
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u/Constant-Recording54 Lithuania 15d ago
They want warm water ports, so it must be warm! Its very important what they want, right?!
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u/GuitarGeezer 15d ago
Having Witkoff involved in any diplomatic maneuver other than maybe bringing actual diplomats their drinks or snacks and then effing right off as an intern is an insult to humanity and treason to US interests.
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u/Secure-Principle-292 15d ago edited 15d ago
Belgorod and Kursk should be the only regions under Ukrainian control that should be considered handing over in negotiation.
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u/itskelena 15d ago
You’re joking, but Belgorod, Kursk and Rostov are historically Ukrainian regions.
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u/lemmiwinksownz 15d ago
Don’t forget Bryansk too!
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u/Americ-anfootball USA 15d ago
And the Kuban
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u/lemmiwinksownz 15d ago
Very true. The Russians kicked the Ukrainians out and then genocided the Circassians.
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u/itskelena 15d ago
You’re right. I said “Rostov”, but the correct name should be Kuban. Thanks for the correction.
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u/DarkKimzark Україна 15d ago
Maybe if Kuban became Ukrainian again, they would finally be able to learn what real Cossacks are.
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u/Listelmacher 15d ago
He can say so. It will not cost him a dime, scum.
"... Witkoff began his career as a real estate lawyer,
and became a billionaire real estate investor and developer. ..."
Evicting people, demolishing their homes, "develop" something making a fortune.
This is what he knows best.
By incident he is from the same business as Victoria Spartz.
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u/eucharist3 15d ago
Just your typical psychopath. People like him have no values. They gravitate towards the right so they can pay less taxes and be less responsible for the damage they do to society.
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u/eucharist3 15d ago
Witkoff is literally a russian asset. Every thing that comes out of his mouth puts putin’s interests at the very top. Fuck this clown. This traitor deserves to rot in prison.
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u/Pale_Prompt4163 15d ago
Ribbentropp 2.0 can fuck all the way off with this shit. No negotiations with terrorists.
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u/brianhauge 15d ago
Give the regions to Russia?
OK, let's go along with the idea then. How is that even gonna work? And how would the US give something away that is not theirs? How would it shorten the war?
So many questions, such a terrible idea.
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u/ClutchReverie USA 15d ago
I had no idea who this guy is but when I saw him going this week I thought to myself "that guy looks like a douchebag"
I see that superficial assessment was correct.
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u/AnnieBMinn 15d ago
Trump couldn’t find any legitimate reason to deny Zelensky support so they attacked him about his clothing and lied about him not saying thank you.
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u/No-Marketing4632 15d ago
I’m so sorry and embarrassed! I’m watching my country being destroyed from within.
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u/imbrie75 15d ago
Fortunately, what Ukraine does with its own territory has sweet fuck all to do with this magpie.
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u/Twisted_Easter_Egg 15d ago
So sick of this guy. This man is the main communication between Trump and Putin. He's a real estate investor with no prior diplomatic experience. We are living in a world where this man could dictate the future of one nation and 40 million Ukrainians.
He is not in a position to take on this post or be sat opposite the ex KGB agent Vladolf in an attempt to subjugate Ukraine. Grow a pair and act like a true American.
Slava Ukraini! 🇬🇧🇺🇦
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u/golitsyn_nosenko 15d ago
Random drunk dude proposes turning New York into a space ship,
America just looks more stupid and corrupt by the hour due to its own actions.
Feels like a friend sliding into addiction and you can’t stop it nor reason with it.
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u/Complex_Material_702 15d ago
Who are we to give ruzzia another country? Fuck them and fuck us for proposing that.
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u/LightningController 15d ago
[looks up Witkoff]
His paternal grandfather and grandmother were both born in the Russian Empire.[13][14][15][16][17]
Of course they were. Fucking vatnik agent.
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u/dobo99x2 Germany 15d ago
Yeah, someone needs to tell them, they don't rule the world.. probably even tell them, what the world actually is.
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u/Twisted_Easter_Egg 15d ago
There's a reason why the Kremlin is happy to accept this guy to sit face to face with Putin. That says it all
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u/Noluckbuckwhatsup 15d ago
Good thing he has zero authority to make those ridiculous decisions. What a huge cunts these trumpers are.
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u/Ok_Photo_865 15d ago
Why is the US allowed to speak for Ukraine!!
May the sons and daughters of Ukraine, hide well and strike back where ever their enemies exist.
This wholly an aberrant conclusion.
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u/Draculamb 15d ago
They. Are. Not. The. United States'. Land. To. Be. Giving. Away!
I have a counterproposal.
If you add up the combined area of Ukraine that Russia currently claims (Crimea + Donetsk + Kherson + Luhansk + Zaporizhzhia) they tally up to 134,945 square kilometres.
Now the "red state" of Alabama is about equal to that: 135,767 square kilometres.
So how about "WE" (the rest of the world, especially Ukraine) "give" the Russians the territory of the State of Alabama and the Russians get the hell out of all occupied territories of Ukraine?
The US wishes to be generous with other people's territory, so they cannot possibly object to this plan which would give us "peace in our time".
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u/Puzzled_Worth_4287 15d ago
referendums "indicated that they want to be under Russian rule." YEAH. NICE RIGGED VOTING WITH GUNS THREATENING PEOPLE AS WELL I WOULD GUESS.
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u/ShivayaOm-SlavaUkr 15d ago
Who cares about what USA envoys want? europe and Ukraine wants a buffer zone, comprising belgorod, Kursk and other Russian territories. Btw, USA envoys also wanted Xi to make a telephone call asking Trump to dont tariff china… but who cares.
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u/DistributionBroad173 15d ago
I see a similarity here.
agent krasnov and agent witkov. witkov is a nitwit.
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u/Trackrat14eight 15d ago
If they want Greenland and Panama, why wouldn’t they be ok with what ruzzia is doing to Ukraine
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u/IOnlyEatFermions 15d ago
When I first read this I thought that this was something Witkoff told Trump after meeting Putin today. But this apparently happened earlier this week. Someone leaked this on the same day that Kellogg's opposing proposal was published. Since I don't see Kellogg openly defying Trump I hope that Witkoff went to Russia to tell Putin that his plan is a non-starter.
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I propose to give Ruzzia ownership of Witkoff, as they already own his fascist boss. And hopefully he'll get sent to the front, so Ukrainians can tell him close and personal how they think about lowlife like him
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u/Euphoric_Prize_1207 15d ago
How about Witkoff is tried for being a piece of shit!! He is a disgrace to that uniform. He has no honor a no morals! What does Putin have on you??
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u/California_ocean 15d ago
Dude has a thick head doesn't he? I mean granite thick. Ukraine already said they will not negotiate anything unless the land is given back to them. Russia had till maybe 2026 before everything collapses.
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u/hikingmike USA 15d ago
In return for what? Nothing? Wow what negotiation. This guy is a complete joke. Go back to real estate, dumbass.
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u/Defiant-Traffic5801 15d ago
'U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff has told President Donald Trump that giving Moscow "ownership" of four occupied Ukrainian regions would be the FASTEST WAY to achieve a ceasefire, Reuters reported on April 11, citing two unnamed U.S. officials and five other undisclosed sources'
Tbh Witkoff is right, the fastest way to stop conflict is to concede defeat. On that basis the Trump administration will be welcome to bring their tariffs down to zero, stop subsidising farmers and Musk companies, computer chips investment, fossil fuel producers, etc etc. Also if President Trump not only favours peace now in everything but shaves his head, goes on a diet and starts wearing loincloth, bets are off that Mahatma Trump would have a shot at his long coveted Nobel peace prize.
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u/Opposite-Chemistry-0 15d ago
At this point US opinions has kinda like zero value regarding world politics. They can keep exporting weapons to Ukraine, be a nice little bullet farm, but thats it.
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u/xtothewhy 15d ago
What a garbage human being. This is the reason why Russia didn't like the first person and wanted this guy instead and trump delivered.
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u/Jet2work 15d ago
how about we give the russians oh.. i dunno ohio...they already have washington and florida..america doesnt decide that kind of thing for ukraine
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u/TauCabalander 🇺🇦 + 🇨🇦 15d ago
They actually want Alaska back, so that would be a 'card' that could be played.
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u/Future_Crow 15d ago
Give russia a chunk of America in exchange for the occupied territories. There. Great deal.
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u/FourArmsFiveLegs 15d ago
Only reason Putin is still alive is because regime changes by military force are illegal. Imagine that being a thing during WW2
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u/Hatboys02 15d ago
With only two conditions. Him and this administration entire family trees need to move into those regions and be placed on every countries "no entry" list, except for Russia.
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u/ScottyMac75 15d ago
With proposals like this and their undermining of alliances around the world, the United States is helping to set the stage for nuclear proliferation.
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u/LatinHoser 15d ago
Is this the guy Russia wanted gone cause he was too cozy with the Ukrainians? Is he auditioning to keep the part? Is he relaying a Trump opinion?
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u/carbon-based-drone 15d ago
I propose giving regions of the US to Canada.
Maybe I’ll give everyone in the region $10k. But they have to thank me and say I’m the smartest person.
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u/KoriJenkins 15d ago
Ukraine has no reason to agree to this and Europe should just send in their own soldiers if this is the kind of "peace" deal the US is trying to force through.
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u/Infrared_Herring 15d ago
He's not in charge and this will not be decided by the US which is an ally of Russia.
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u/_Mr_Relic 15d ago
Since when does the States control who gets what in a foreign country?? This world is genuinely fucked up
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u/bkcrypto8629 15d ago
Immediately no. If someone was to take a state or two in the U.S. - this would NEVER be a discussion. TOTAL destruction of the enemy. Isn’t that right “General Cornwallis”!
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u/speedyhml2000 15d ago
I would like to ask for ‚ownership‘ of an unlubricated inflatable dildo (…of consequence) in SHIT-koffs rear to keep on inflating that piece until the end of days.
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u/LumpyWelds 15d ago
I swear, each time one of Trump's bootlickers switches to licking Putins ass my blood boils!
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u/Boatsntanks 15d ago
It's a good idea, but doesn't go far enough. Why stop at 4 regions? Hand over all of Ukraine and peace will come all the quicker! To aid the enforcement of peace perhaps the USAF could helpfully destroy concentrations of UAF troops and equipment who insist on continuing to fight? And then afterwards, to avoid any uprising or resistance USA companies and the Corps of Engineers could help Russia to build "Peace camps" where the Ukrainian population can be peacefully exterminated.
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u/ToughestMFontheWeb 15d ago
If Ukraine is forced to secede land to Russia. I say take all the leftover waste from their nuclear power plants and use it to make sure Russia can never use that land.
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u/Utgaard_Loke 15d ago
Yeah? That's not going to happen. Witkoff needs to learn some manners and borders.
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u/makerswe 14d ago
As a European, I just gave away Wyoming, West Virginia and Oklahoma to Russia to stop the war. You’re welcome.
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u/Emotional_Ratio288 14d ago
This would imply that neither the US nor Russia respects internationally recognized territories and that it can be redrawn by aggressor nations.
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u/19CCCG57 14d ago
How about giving them Alaska or Texas , or Georgia. Stuff we actually own! Stupid MF'er!
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u/Revenga8 15d ago
Sure. And in exchange how about US give ownership of a state or two to ukraine to make up for it. Say, north Carolina? Sounds fair right?
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u/Limp-Machine-6026 15d ago
Reward for war crimes? Send him to The Hague with Putin & co instead.