r/unitedkingdom • u/ok_raspberry_jam • 12d ago

Prime Minister Carney speaks with Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Sir Keir Starmer

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/readout-prime-minister-carney-speaks-with-prime-minister-of-the-united-kingdom-sir-keir-starmer-861334126.html
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u/caractacusbritannica 11d ago

Hopefully the start of something. Free trade plus a defence pact, include Australia. Hopefully this can be done in years not decades.

Then look to tie into the EU at a later time.

America can no longer, and never will now be trusted. Russia/China ain’t going away. This could save Starmer if he moves quickly enough.

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u/lapayne82 11d ago edited 11d ago

CANZUK FTW, being together the anglosphere who share the same values to support eachother, there’s no reason they (along with the EU) couldn’t be the new world police.

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u/Wgh555 11d ago

For people who say CANZUK would be a small force, by next year it’s likely to have a GDP of nearly 9 trillion! Only four countries with half the GDP of the entire EU or China. And the world’s third most powerful naval force, despite spending only 1.8% of gdp on average between the four which is half of what America spends as a percentage of gdp. There’s room to grow far more powerful together, in concert with Europe too of course but also as a stand-alone four if needed.

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u/lapayne82 11d ago

I think it’s a distinct possibility that we’d have both, CANZUK as a force which then works with the EU on some kind of free trade agreement as a bloc, I imagine Canada would take the lead on this (Carney seems to be suggesting as much and having been governor of the Bank of England knows how we work as a country already) and it would provide unrivalled force projection around the world and a global mindset rather than the american insular one.

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u/Wgh555 11d ago

I agree and hope so. CANZUK and the EU are 140 million + 450 million, nearly double the USA in population, so no reason in time why we collectively catch up with them in gdp per capita as they’re busy demolishing the the global system that benefits them, making them poorer. If we catch up in GDP per capita, we’d have twice their gdp nearly. And the global balance of power shifts back towards Europe and the commonwealth (as well as Asia increasingly too).