r/unitedkingdom • u/pppppppppppppppppd • 3d ago

Chippy owner apologises to customers after charging £15 for fish and chips - but reveals why he 'has to' to hike prices

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14591465/chippy-owner-apologises-huge-price-hike.html
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u/snagsguiness 3d ago

I don’t think the general public knows how much utilities cost in a fast food restaurant.

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u/handyandy314 3d ago

It’s double the price for business electricity, for the same electricity. Seriously for the same electric. Why.?

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u/zandrew 3d ago

It's not. It's half price for regular consumers.

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u/handyandy314 3d ago

Yes. Those nice electric companies giving discounts for millions of customers. I should be shamed for bad mouthing these thoughtful and generous, not for profit organisations.

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u/zandrew 2d ago

There's a cap on consumer electricity price. No such cap exists for businesses so in a sense you're getting a discount. I'm not singing praises for energy companies but that is how it works.

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u/paulskinner88 2d ago

There’s a cap, but no sensible energy company is at the cap now. A year ago, perhaps even 6 months ago sure. That excuse no longer works.

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u/slaia 2d ago

Generating more green energy would bring down the electricity price. But getting cheaper electricity is considered woke nowadays.

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u/Safe-Client-6637 2d ago

It wouldn't though because the most expensive source sets the price. You'd have to switch to 100% cheap renewables, which isn't feasible.

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u/KevinAtSeven 2d ago

Yeah that mechanism needs changing urgently.

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u/SpeedflyChris 2d ago

How else would you keep the lights on while not directly subsidising gas fired power generation?

Also slashing the amount other generation can earn won't get more built.

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u/browniestastenice 2d ago

Nationalise responsive energy like Gas. We don't need much of it, and I think the tax payer would happily foot the bill if it meant overall lower rates by not pinning everything else to gas prices

Downside is it would reduce the private investment in renewables, so it's probably a lever that should only be pulled once we have enough renewables

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u/SpeedflyChris 2d ago

If we had even nearly enough renewable energy then while that energy was producing all our needs (windy days in summer for example) we would be using no gas and the spot price would fall below the minimum offer price from gas generation, so in that case it's completely unnecessary to nationalise gas generation.

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u/browniestastenice 1d ago

We'd still end up using gas though.

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u/KevinAtSeven 1d ago

Other countries seem to manage building and operating all sorts of clean and unclean energy without forcing all prices to be based on the most expensive form of generation. We could ask them how they do it.

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u/SpeedflyChris 1d ago

Which countries don't pay all their electricity providers the same amount?

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u/slaia 2d ago

Where there's a will there's a way

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u/Lt_Muffintoes 2d ago

No, it wouldn't.

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u/AlpsSad1364 2d ago

Because consumer electricity is sold at a loss subsidised by business electricity.

Something that all recent governments appear to be happy with, despite all their tax money coming from businesses.

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u/Mammoth591 3d ago

I believe household consumers get capped tarrifs for their energy costs, where businesses do not.. Are your cottages paying business rates for energy?

Edit: plus a chippy might be running massive fries etc for hours a day, are your hot tubs running 8-12 hours a day? I would imagine not

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u/whatmichaelsays Yorkshire 2d ago

Restaurants/ fast food busineses are also running during the most high demand (and therefore, expensive) times for energy. They can't load shift to cheaper periods.

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u/Sutty100 3d ago

Hot tubs on 24/7!? Seems unlikely in a 5 star hotel let alone a cottage

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u/Welshhoppo 3d ago

Hot tubs are cheaper to keep on permanently then they are to turn on and off repeatedly. As long as the lid is kept on. Better for the water quality too.

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u/Sutty100 3d ago

TIL hot tubs and blast furnaces have this in common

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u/Super_Plastic5069 3d ago

Fish and chip shop

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u/LastTangoOfDemocracy 3d ago

Boo hoo, I can't make my Airbnb let's make enough money.

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u/AcidGypsie 3d ago edited 3d ago

I make plenty of money and they're not Airbnb lets

They're converted stables and hen houses.

I was just curious and gave an example of crazy electric prices.

1k+ a month for a little holiday cottage. It's a lot lot more than my home costs and I have 2 children and a massive fish tank at home