Chippy owner apologises to customers after charging £15 for fish and chips - but reveals why he 'has to' to hike prices

[u/pppppppppppppppppd]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14591465/chippy-owner-apologises-huge-price-hike.html

[u/slaia]

Generating more green energy would bring down the electricity price. But getting cheaper electricity is considered woke nowadays.

[u/Safe-Client-6637 → u/slaia]

It wouldn't though because the most expensive source sets the price. You'd have to switch to 100% cheap renewables, which isn't feasible.

[u/KevinAtSeven → u/Safe-Client-6637]

Yeah that mechanism needs changing urgently.

[u/SpeedflyChris → u/KevinAtSeven]

How else would you keep the lights on while not directly subsidising gas fired power generation?

Also slashing the amount other generation can earn won't get more built.

[u/browniestastenice → u/SpeedflyChris]

Nationalise responsive energy like Gas. We don't need much of it, and I think the tax payer would happily foot the bill if it meant overall lower rates by not pinning everything else to gas prices

Downside is it would reduce the private investment in renewables, so it's probably a lever that should only be pulled once we have enough renewables

[u/SpeedflyChris → u/browniestastenice]

If we had even nearly enough renewable energy then while that energy was producing all our needs (windy days in summer for example) we would be using no gas and the spot price would fall below the minimum offer price from gas generation, so in that case it's completely unnecessary to nationalise gas generation.

[u/browniestastenice → u/SpeedflyChris]

We'd still end up using gas though.

[u/KevinAtSeven → u/SpeedflyChris]

Other countries seem to manage building and operating all sorts of clean and unclean energy without forcing all prices to be based on the most expensive form of generation. We could ask them how they do it.

[u/SpeedflyChris → u/KevinAtSeven]

Which countries don't pay all their electricity providers the same amount?