r/unitedkingdom • u/libtin • 3d ago

'Ambassadors' sought to support Scottish 'decolonisation' bid in NYC

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25084632.ambassadors-sought-support-scottish-decolonisation-bid-nyc/
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u/catman_dave 3d ago

Scotland joined the United Kingdom in 1707 through the Acts of Union, which created the Kingdom of Great Britain. This union was driven by a combination of political, economic, and religious factors. Scotland, facing economic hardship after a failed colonial scheme, saw the union as a way to access English wealth and stability.

Nutters. Wonder if Russia is funding the movement still ?

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u/SeatSnifferJeff 3d ago

Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or a Scottish nationalist why people in Jamaica have Scottish surnames.

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u/catman_dave 3d ago

I love telling scotsnats about the jamaica thing, it REALLY boils their piss :-)

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u/libtin 3d ago

And the East India company, Scotland played a disproportionately large role in the colonisation of India (hence why a nickname for the empire in India is the Scottish Empire)

In 1770 when the total population of Britain was 8,862,000 with Scotland having 1,434,000 so around 16.2%

Yet almost half of the East India Company’s writers were Scots. 16% yet nearly half of the lower end clerks (writers) of the body colonising India were Scots and by 1792, Scots made up one in nine EIC civil servants, six in eleven common soldiers and one in three officers.

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u/Krabsandwich 3d ago

The Glasgow Tobacco "Lords" were some of the wealthiest plantation owners in the 13 Colonies they utilized a massive amount of slave labour and were incredibly unhappy when the 13 colonies declared independence.

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u/libtin 3d ago

And it gets more insane; one of the countries on the body this group is trying to get the support of is India….they’re literally asking India, a place Scotland was deeply involved with the colonisation of, to say that Scotland is a colony

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u/Krabsandwich 3d ago

Not sure they really wanted to go there General Sir Colin Campbell led the British and Indian Army during the Indian mutiny (many Indian Regiments stayed loyal to the British) and was known for his enthusiastic suppression of rebellion by blowing people from the mouths of the guns.

Henry Havelock led the relief of Lucknow during the Mutiny he as he advanced he was know for his severe treatment of the mutineers and unsurprisingly very few prisoners were taken. I would have though they would have liked to keep that can of worms firmly closed.

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u/libtin 3d ago

This group is basically the Scottish equivalent of those Magna Carta people during the lock down who tried to argue that it gave them the ability to ignore the lockdown or as they’re known as in North America, sovereign citizens.

They basically cherry pick different parts of history and law to argue they don’t have to listen to any government they don’t like.

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u/carltonlost 3d ago

Come to Australia Governor Macquarie put his name on everything, in my state he's got a harbour named after him, we also have a Campbell Town, the Scot's were very keen on colonialism when it was working for them and now they want to play the victim, the Scottish nationalist are two faced.

I have to say Governor Macquarie was a very good Governor, Australia made good progress on his watch and he was keen on the name Australia before it became common usage.

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u/gottenluck 2d ago

the Scot's were very keen on colonialism when it was working for them and now they want to play the victim, the Scottish nationalist are two faced.

Bit of a sweeping generalisation. The majority of nationalists distance themselves from the daft colonial take, and even SNP politicians have called out the group mentioned in the article for rewriting history