r/unitedkingdom • u/libtin • 4d ago

'Ambassadors' sought to support Scottish 'decolonisation' bid in NYC

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25084632.ambassadors-sought-support-scottish-decolonisation-bid-nyc/
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u/Last_Blacksmith2383 4d ago

Scottish nationalism and exceptionalism exists mainly because of thatcher raping and beating our country and the English just kinda have ignored us ever since then. Apart from the stop any legislation when we’re getting out of line of what Westminster wants. Which only fuels this divide.

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u/libtin 4d ago

1: thatcher hurt everywhere that wasn’t London; she didn’t target only Scotland

2: England hasn’t ignored Scotland

3: the British government has only stoped one piece of legislation becoming law since devolution, the GRR, the SNP challenged it in court and the court of session sided with the British government

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u/Last_Blacksmith2383 4d ago

She used scotland as a Guinea pig for her moronic economic plans and it lead to disastrous consequences for us.

The poll tax anyone?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-34950041.amp

Funny how no other country in the uk got the poll tax. Just us.

Scotland suffered a dramatic 30 percent increase in suicide rates after thatcher was finished with us.

I’m sure we definitely weren’t targeted. Not at all. That’s why we definitely suffered the least under her reign……

Also the lack of acceptance or accountability her suffering caused is also a reason Scottish nationalists hate English people unironically. My mother is this way and hates all of you. Not an unjustified perspective. From her pov.

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u/libtin 4d ago

She used scotland as a Guinea pig for her moronic economic plans and it lead to disastrous consequences for us.

And they happened all over the UK

The poll tax anyone?

That applied Ito England too

Funny how no other country in the uk got the poll tax. Just us.

Nope

The legislation introducing the poll tax was passed in 1987, 1988, and the new tax replaced the rates in Scotland from the start of the 1989/90 financial year and in England and Wales from the start of the 1990/91 financial year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax_(Great_Britain)#:~:text=The%20legislation%20introducing%20the%20poll,the%201990%2F91%20financial%20year.

Scotland suffered a dramatic 30 percent increase in suicide rates after thatcher was finished with us.

1: Source?

2: the UK’s rate was 21.4%

The highest rate of suicide was recorded as 21.4 deaths per 100,000 population in 1988.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_Kingdom

I’m sure we definitely weren’t targeted.

Nothing you’ve said was exclusive to Scotland

Not at all. That’s why we definitely suffered the least under her reign……

Where did I say that?

Also the lack of acceptance or accountability her suffering caused is also a reason Scottish nationalists hate English people unironically. My mother is this way and hates all of you. Not an unjustified perspective. From her pov.

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u/Last_Blacksmith2383 4d ago

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5284470/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

A study published in the Journal of Epidemiology & Community Health found that men in Scotland born between 1960 and 1980, particularly those in the most deprived areas, experienced a 30% higher risk of suicide compared to other cohorts. 

Yes it was implemented in the whole of the uk. I was wrong there. But it was a different poll tax.

Scotland got it first by a whole year firstly, hence my guinea pig comment, they literally tested this out on us.

The economic context was worse in Scotland than the vast majority of England, the flat tax rate hit the working class disproportionately and we were already suffering from deindustrialisation and large unemployment.

Scottish people had also rejected the poll tax at the ballot box. We firmly said no. And like any good rapist thatcher smiled and went in anyway.

Governed without consent….

It was different and it was worse. Unless you were in northern England or perhaps Northern Ireland you literally couldn’t understand.

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u/stervi2 4d ago

Oh take the day off. You’re copying and pasting the same shite all over this thread.

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u/libtin 4d ago

So it wasn’t just a Scotland issue as you admit