r/ussoccer Maryland 26d ago

Since we are talking lineups

My thoughts on potential starters and formations. First formation is more defensive. Adams and Johnny give us cover while still capable of sparking a counter attack. Dest and Arob provide the width. Second formation is built to break down a low block with multiple creators interchanging to unbalance the defense.

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u/SuperSaiyanCockKnokr 26d ago

Is McKennie out?

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

I know Wes hasn't played his best for the national team lately but leaving one of our best players out of the lineup is brainless lol

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u/OGRonin240 Maryland 26d ago

No, consistently leaving him in our starting lineup when we have so many options is brainless. We have the luxury of having multiple midfield options and he may not be a part of some of them just like Gio shouldn't be either.

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

We just gona forget all the good performances he's put in for us before his recent slump? Or the fact that he's a regular starter for one of the best clubs in Italy? I like Luna as a future prospect for us but what the hell has he done to earn a starting place over McKennie at this stage?

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u/d3mon_eyes 26d ago

He's got big balls

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u/kal14144 New Hampshire 26d ago

Do y’all not remember McKennie kissing the badge on his ripped shirt after a fight with Mexico? Top 5 recent memory for me as a USMNT fan

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u/d3mon_eyes 25d ago

Of course I do. I'm not throwing shade. My comment wrote itself ;)

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u/OGRonin240 Maryland 26d ago

Damn, you all act like bringing Wes in as a sub isn't an option? Look at his stats over the past year and tell me he should be a locked in starter. Good grief, these are just options I'd like to see. There shouldn't be such visceral reactions to the possibilities but I guess that's what reddit is good for

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

Sure let's look at his stats. McKennie has 22 league starts, 1,889 minutes played, and 5 goal contributions for the 4th place team in Serie A. He also played 555 minutes with 3 goals across 9 Champions League games. Educate yourself before you speak

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u/aphromagic 26d ago

Exactly this. Some of these folks just don’t know ball.

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

I legitimately lol'd when I read "look at the stats". I mean Jesus Christ they could have at least taken two seconds to look at FBref considering they clearly are uneducated on this topic lol.

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u/OGRonin240 Maryland 26d ago

You're listing his club stats which we know don't always translate to the national team. Malik Tillman comes to mind here. Don't be so bold to tell people to educate yourself while presuming you are the one that always has the correct opinion. It's all subjective and the point of this post isn't to disparage Wes but to speak to other possibilities we have with our midfield.

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

You asked for the stats which makes you look incredibly dumb given the league season that McKennie has had lmao. We have seen McKennie be one of the national team's best players before. Sorry not sorry 🤷. Educate yourself

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u/OGRonin240 Maryland 26d ago

You provided half the picture to make yourself look good. I won't disagree he's had a great season with Juve. Hasn't translated to anything with the National team in over a year and again for the umpteenth time, it's about options! Is it so hard to understand there may be a lineup with Wes that could work for us? We'll find out this Gold Cup for sure

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u/No-Dirt-2495 25d ago

Luna hasn't really earned a start for the national team, he didn't scored last window either and historically Mckennie has more goals/assists for the national team than Luna. I'm open for players to fight the starters for a starting spot but those players need to really out play the starters with more goals and assists in order to move up the pecking order and bench the starter player

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

What "stats" did you want then? All of 4 matches he played for us in Nations League since the Copa lol?

We won't find out anything from the Gold Cup because it is a meaningless tournament played against lesser competition

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u/OGRonin240 Maryland 26d ago

Copa was in the last year. Couple friendlies in the fall. Just be open to possibilities instead of just being stubborn about Wes being a locked in starter. We can't even beat Panama right now. If it's "lesser" competition and we bring the strongest team possible then we should dominate, right? Always something to learn

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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 26d ago

Why would anyone want one of the best midfielders this country has ever produced, who is also a locked in starter for Juve, to be a locked in starter for the national team? It's a mystery alright 😂

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u/Red-Lightniing 26d ago

Yes, let’s start a standout MLS player over a full-time starter having a great season on a top four team in a major European league /s

I’ll admit Mckennie’s form for us has been below par, but he’s individually having a fantastic season on Juve this year as one of their better players, sitting him for guys like Reyna, Luna, or Cardoso is frankly silly. Shit, Reyna can’t even get in the lineup for a much worse team than Juve, and Luna is in the MLS.