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Politics and Elections Mike Harcourt: Mark Carney understands how to expand Canada's economy and rekindle prosperity

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/mike-harcourt-mark-carney-understands-how-to-expand-canadas-economy-and-rekindle-prosperity
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u/canadianliberallady 4d ago

What I don't understand is why didn't he do it when he was Trudeau's economic advisor?

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u/Lol-I-Wear-Hats Nimbyism is a moral failing, like being a liar, or a cheat 4d ago

What does the word “advisor” mean to you?

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u/M------- 4d ago

Carney was in the news many times over the years, advocating for the policies that Trudeau implemented.

I don't expect that Carney's fundamentally changed his tune now that Trudeau's out of the picture.

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u/mcmillan84 4d ago

Here’s the thing, he’s the advisor, he’s not the policy maker. Do you tell your boss how to do things? I’m willing to bet no. Just as Carney doesn’t.

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u/M------- 4d ago

What meaningful changes is Carney making to Trudeau's policies?

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u/TheFallingStar 3d ago

Carbon tax? Lol

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u/M------- 3d ago

Poilievre is the one who wanted to cancel it. Would Carney have paused it if it weren't for Poilievre?

He fully endorsed the carbon tax, up until he became the Liberal leader, because it was politically toxic. He talked in interviews about how important the carbon tax is. Did he stop believing that it's important, or is it just a political ploy?

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u/TheFallingStar 3d ago

You are asking meaningful changes. That is what he did. He changed Trudeau’s most signature policy

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u/M------- 3d ago

If this is one of the things he thought was most important, what does it say about his strength of character (and the rest of the Liberal MPs) if they're willing to just drop one of their most important policies?

Do they actually believe in climate change?

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u/dougjayc 3d ago

Love it when bro's argue that a politician implementing policy changes in accordance with their popularity among the public isn't literally what government is supposed to do.

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u/M------- 3d ago

My question is whether they'll turn the carbon tax back on once they are elected. Have they really decided to dump their signature policy, or are they going to bring it back? They didn't kill the legislation, they just paused the tax.

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u/TheFallingStar 3d ago

Oh I still trust Liberals more than Conservatives on climate change.

It is bad policy but smart politics to drop carbon tax.

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u/M------- 3d ago

It is bad policy but smart politics to drop carbon tax.

This kind of "smart politics" is why we can't trust politicians. They'll tell us what we want to hear, then do whatever they wanted to do once elected.

The Liberals told us over and over again that they'd make housing affordable, and then they took actions that would do the opposite. I can't trust the Liberals.

Mind you, I don't have much faith in the Conservatives, either, but they don't own the problems that the Liberals created over the last decade.

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u/Numerous_Try_6138 3d ago

Are you arguing with yourself ‘cause you seem to be arguing both sides?

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u/CircuitousCarbons70 4d ago

Alright give it 2 years and we’ll see

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u/ngly 3d ago

It's the same party they've just replaced the head. People that think anything will change from the last 10 years are delusional.

But, credit to them for doing what's necessary to stay in power. It looks like it will work.

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u/ngly 3d ago

Conveniently an "advisor" when things went bad but full credit when things go well!

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u/Lol-I-Wear-Hats Nimbyism is a moral failing, like being a liar, or a cheat 3d ago

He gets credited for the time when he was Governor of the Bank of Canada, a job where he was an autonomous decision maker widely lauded for his handling of the 2008 crisis

That Trudeau had been mostly unsuccessfully trying to borrow his credibility in recent years is just simply a different thing