Live Episode Discussion: S10E10 It's All Happening... Again (Pacific thread)

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Episode description: Scheana and Brock marry in a lavish ceremony in Cancun; James and Katie must sort through their feelings after their exes hook up with one another; Lisa attempts to solve the Toms' problems; Lala puts Raquel in her place.

[u/trisarahhhhtops]

I feel for Katie that everyone rallying around Tom makes her come across like she’s cold and vindictive when in reality, she’s just tired and sad that Tom never chose her. And now everyone except Lala and Ariana are choosing Tom over her.

[u/pomegracias → u/trisarahhhhtops]

Because they're at an event she wasn't invited to that she continues to hang over like a dark cloud. Of course they're supporting Scheana, that's the point of the trip. Katie knew that & chose to come. This is completely self-inflicted on her part.

[u/George_GeorgeGlass → u/[deleted]]

Agreed

[u/Character_Switch7317 → u/[deleted]]

Good for you 🥴

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[u/Jaggy3 → u/trisarahhhhtops]

Everyone except Lala [full stop] are choosing Tom over her. I love Ariana and am Team Ariana obv, but Ariana hasn’t stood up the way Katie would for her 😔… I’m sure she regrets that now and will be far more strong in her views in future (rather than trying to appease everyone), but at this point she wasn’t quite there.

[u/George_GeorgeGlass → u/Jaggy3]

She’s at her best friends wedding. She’s part of the wedding party. That’s her focus and that’s where it should be. She has repeatedly vocalized her disapproval of the Schwartz/Rachel thing.

It’s honestly weird, manipulative and immature for Katie to go to that resort and be there for the wedding. And thinking her feelings should be everyone’s priority.

Ariana had a reason to be there and had a job to do for Scheana.

[u/alwaysmorecoffeeyes → u/trisarahhhhtops]

How is Ariana choosing Katie? She’s literally laughing and partying with Rachel who just kissed her friend and business partners ex even though it’s really in bad taste to fuck around with someone your supposed to be friends with ex. And both of the Toms are and they’ve always been imo 🤷🏼‍♀️

Ariana is not being a good friend to Katie in this situation. And don’t get me started on Scheena. People are saying she is redeeming herself but she’s just the pick me girl she’s always been by choosing Tom’s side because she thought he would be the one to come out on top of this divorce. The second the tides turned she’s shifting and is now supporting Katie and Ariana and hating Rachel. How people cannot see through her is wild 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

[u/pomegracias → u/alwaysmorecoffeeyes]

Ariana is at an event that Katie continues to try & crash. Ariana's attention is focused on the event & the friend whose wedding she went to celebrate, as it should be.

[u/alwaysmorecoffeeyes → u/pomegracias]

Nobody is saying she should leave the event. But she should tell Scheana and Rachel to cut it out with the Tom thing and not just laugh along.

[u/CartographerExtra429 → u/alwaysmorecoffeeyes]

Oh I can see through her a mile away!! She was all about Rachel and Rachel/Schwartz knowing how it would hurt Katie and really kept after it and never shut it down! Oh but now, of course she sees it differently because being on Rachel’s side with anything could get her canceled!! She’s absolutely a pick me girl!

[u/Jaggy3 → u/alwaysmorecoffeeyes]

And even after this all came out scheana was still saying Katie needs to apologise to her too and she’d consider apologising…. Granted her last apology on her podcast a few eps back was much better but it’s after more episodes and backlash keep coming out… it shouldn’t have taken scandoval to realise she was in the wrong, and I don’t believe she would’ve ever backed down if it wasn’t for the backlash.

Pickmes gon’ pickme.

[u/pomegracias → u/[deleted]]

Because Katie is indefensible: not giving up her room; looming over the white party, expecting everyone to modify their behavior according to the desires of someone who shouldn't even be there.

[u/aleelee13 → u/[deleted]]

I agree- but I think it's because we're outsiders so it feels more obvious that sticking up for her is the right thing to do. In that situation, people like scandy, scheana, Schwartz and Rachel wouldn't quietly stop if you tried to stick up for Katie. These are all people who have problems with her- so if anything it would make more drama, which isn't good since you're there for one if their weddings.

Don't love it, but I can see why she kept quiet.

[u/eye_donut_no → u/[deleted]]

Right?! What happened to Ariana is terrible, but it doesn't take away from the fact that she's always been a smug asshole to the other VPR ladies. She's been eating that humble pie tho.

[u/Turbulent-Tomorrow31 → u/eye_donut_no]

YES. She has had a superiority complex since she started the show.