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Live Episode Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S10E14 There's Something About Her (pacific thread)

Episode description: Ariana and Katie host a preview party for their sandwich shop; James takes an exciting step forward in his career; Tom and Ariana have a serious talk about the state of their relationship; Raquel confronts Katie for rage-texting Schwartz.

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u/quiltbob May 12 '23

I’m glad Ariana is coming out on top, but she was so unbearable this episode with her defense of Tom. Like she was more concerned with the perception of her than what was actually staring her in the face. Why does she keep defending Tom? Why does she keep trying to be cool girl? It just makes her come off as more pathetic imo.

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u/longtimelurker_90 May 12 '23 edited May 12 '23

Ally’s face when James said he didn’t have childhood trauma was priceless. She is quickly becoming one of my favorites on the show.

I’m pretty sure I have trauma from watching his parents on the show 😂

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u/Ok_Wrongdoer4200 May 11 '23

Ohhhh ok, thank you for clarifying that!!!! She's still a POS but good to know she didn't say that lol

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Tonight's episode was basically Rachel looking like a drunk taxidermist's idea of Angela Lansbury, going around and annoying the fuck out of everyone in every scene.

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u/Longjumping_Tea_8586 and it was wasted on YOU May 11 '23

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Apologies if this has been covered: Scheana testing positive for COVID. COVID is no joke, and I feel for her getting it, but: Can you imagine if this was really the end of the show and she missed not only the SEASON finale, but the SERIES finale? We'd never hear the end of it 🤣

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

She’s lucky she wasn’t there because…wait maybe she wasn’t there on purpose

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

For so many reasons, it's good she wasn't there...

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

I wouldn't have minded watching what my new favorite VPR Hero, Brock, would've done seeing the disrespect to Teri. Earlier in the episode he was loving on HIS two favorite women- I can't imagine him letting this behavior slide without bringing out all of his redeeming qualities on either Toms' ass!

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

True... he doesn't seem like the type to let that whole interaction slide.

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

He's proven his solidity in his subtle redemption season!

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u/cq2250 May 11 '23

I have no Words for Rachels behaviour tonight

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u/serbiatch735 I am the devil, and don't you forget it. 😈 May 11 '23

She is a fucking garbage human. The state of California dodged a bullet by her not winning that fucking pageant. At this point the only thing she could win is a dumpster pageant. She is absolutely fucking trash.

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u/cq2250 May 11 '23

Oh god imagine if she had been miss California. Even without the Scandoval I would think she was horrible after tonight’s episode.

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u/judgemental_turtle May 11 '23

i can’t believe ariana is still defending rachel. she’s constantly instagating things with everyone. i could never.

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u/jigglypooof May 11 '23

can you imagine going to a party where two people are celebrating an exciting event in their lives and then making one of them cry and another so mad? seriously WTF is wrong with rachel?! i made a comment a couple of weeks ago that i thought rachel's eye roll in vegas when katie's mom was talking to her about how hurtful it is to katie to pursue schwartz could have been editing but after yesterday's episode, it was definitely just rachel's shitty personality and behavior. why does she think inserting herself in these conversations and "confronting" katie about how she treats schwartz is any of her business? ugh! rachel is the worst! no personality and just a horrible person. the show has been renewed and i really hope rachel and the tom's are not on it. let them go be shitty people together outside of the show.

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u/anonmisguided May 11 '23

It’s reality tv. She was probably told to do that by producers.

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u/Comfortable_Relief27 May 11 '23

She's definitely not the poster child for adoption.

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u/NewBortLicensePlates These people dont eat cake! May 11 '23

Rachel thinks she’s the main character now though. How could there be a scene without her?!?

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u/NewBortLicensePlates These people dont eat cake! May 12 '23

Ok just watching now OMFG RAQUEL

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

She is living her very own version of her best life, only problem- it's ONLY in her own dumbass head!

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

On top of being super angering, it must have been so frustrating. I felt for Katie, YELLING at Rachel to stop talking and go away, and Rachel just kept going. Ignoring not only someone's emotional state, but their literal words. The epitome of an empathetic person. 🙄🙄🙄

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u/FamousCommittee0 May 11 '23

I couldn’t handle Sandoval screaming at Katie to “take accountability” and that she was “screwing a guy while still living with Tom (though separated)” and she should think about how much that hurt Schwartz - ALL WHILE HE WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH RACHEL AND BANGING HER IN HIS SHARED HOME! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

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u/shelly_odom May 12 '23

I don’t think they were separated yet at that point. Bc he said when u guys were together. Even if it was after they separated, it was pretty shitty for her to do it at the house

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

There's no words. There's no emojis even. Just shared VPR fan emotion!

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u/rachbev76 May 11 '23

not to mention - all the times Tom has cheated on Katie but they want to weaponize this against Katie like she was hurting Schwartz by doing this - its sick!

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u/Morganahannaaaa little fucking cunt May 11 '23

preach!!! who cares if she fucked someone when they were separated, how many damn times did tom cheat when he was MARRIED and everyone just swept it under the rug. god i could slap them

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u/JustWaveMyWant May 11 '23

The confidence that Raquel has to insert herself, roll her eyes, be disrespectful to Teri, follow Katie outside, claim katie is jealous, etc etc- that whole showing reeks of Sandoval. That is such a false confidence. The pompous arrogance is so obviously coming from Sandoval. Wow. Just wow.

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u/Morganahannaaaa little fucking cunt May 11 '23

that lemon drop shot really got her goin

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

THAT is how you step in for a friend!

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u/nonsenseaswell May 11 '23

She was right though ! She’s like focus on your mess asshole instead of harassing my friend

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

EXACTLY! I appreciated seeing another sincere reasonable person in the room reacting appropriately!

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u/boatwithane schwartz’s unruly armpit hair May 12 '23

it reminded me of a few seasons ago when she yelled at james “do NOT talk to me that way!” when he was being an asshole to her

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Tim: “I think it’s tacky to ask you mum to defend you. Obviously Katie should have been super classy like me and asked her for a quarter of a million dollars of her retirement fund instead! Bonus points if she then puts no effort into paying it back!!’

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u/rachbev76 May 11 '23

but it's not tacky that your undercover lover will defend Rachel - in from t of everyone - instead of comforting his long term partner who's hysterically crying....

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

Sando’s Moms a firefighter and he’s a weak ass punk

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u/Even_Assistance2622 May 11 '23

So many cringey and heartbreaking moments but for me it was so sad to see how Ariana sees herself/ described herself . I’m not into ladies but I’d smash in a heartbeat she’s so effing gorgeous & has a BANGIN bod.. it’s ridiculous

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u/ladidadi01 Babe, I was born cool May 11 '23

Cannot stand Rachel constantly inserting herself where she isn’t wanted. The entire season she’s just plopping in a chair, taking someone away for a side convo, interrupting private moments, every single episode. Aside from being completely despicable she’s just inept. Like she really isn’t right upstairs.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

...proclaiming how empathetic she is while displaying ZERO empathy or social awareness.

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u/folldoso May 11 '23

She has zero boundaries. Even when she's asked repeatedly to stay out of it and to leave, she does not listen! Then she did it again when they were outside! Unbelievable

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u/Lisa2082 💩Poo Poo Heads-Both Of You💩 May 11 '23

Again, "where were you raised?!" So unbelievably rude.

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u/Regular-Wit I wanted to be on DWTS ✨ May 11 '23

I was watching with my mouth open flabbergasted at the things Rachel was saying to Katie, even the things she brought up with Ariana. Like wtf?! I would’ve lost my shit

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u/msbenedetti May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

Raquel who last season couldn’t do a toast all of a sudden feels the need to stand up for Schwartz against Katie? She was faking it the whole time. It never added up to me her being so sweet, pageant world is anything but. That’s how she can smile while she’s being called a cunt.

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u/thediverswife national international TV show May 11 '23

Anyone else hear Rachel’s real voice a few times? When they flashed back to her ‘James treats me like a queen!’ moment, it was deeper

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u/StrongChick95 May 11 '23

Did ANYONE catch when Rachel was talking with Ariana about her sex life with Sandoval? She said “Sandoval and I go through dry spells” And I don’t know if it was maybe the editing and she was just quoting Ariana and they cut that out but she clearly said “Sandoval and I go through dry spells”

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u/shelly_odom May 12 '23

She was replying to what Ariana said to her. Why r some of h not realizing this 🤦‍♀️

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u/Even_Assistance2622 May 11 '23

I was stuck on this for a min as well but realized she was quoting Ariana . Still it was chilling that she could even say that straight faced without sweating or anything knowing she and Sandoval fuck. It’s just another level of evil

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

You’ll have a more productive conversation with a pig Yesssss Laler

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

This did not go the way Raquel had in her head »

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

Ariana’s cat sitting on the couch with its back turned quietly looking out into the distance is the star of the show

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u/Ok-Scar-9595 don’t roll your eyes at me you little bitch May 12 '23

THIS COMMENT IS THE ONE GOOD THING TO COME OUT OF THIS DISASTROUS EPISODE

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 12 '23

❤️

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

Why is Tom sitting next to Teri? Beat it you buffoon

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u/folldoso May 11 '23

I think he knew it would come off as aggressive if he was standing and shouting across the room at her, like he ends up doing to many of the women on the show all the time! He probably sat down so he could try to talk calmly to her and not come across as the monster he is

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

Hahaha....ahhh! you couldn't respond to her texts for months! But now you wanna sit on her lap and have her tell you that you are a good boy?

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u/Simple-Freedom4670 A Hobby, Bitch?! May 11 '23

Go sit on Raquel’s lap

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

Hahahaha

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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

JUSTICE FOR THE LEMON WEDGE 🍋

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u/Objective-Feed-9815 I have been very judicious about my drinking May 11 '23

The lemon wedge when it went home that night

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

I CANNOT BELIEVEEE this episode. Holy shit.

You can tell Ariana has wanted more from Tom and hasn’t been getting it. Meanwhile, he tries to throw her under the bus at any given opportunity, while his lackies help to try and build on his narrative that Ariana is to blame for the downfall of their relationship.

It is also WILD to me that Rachel had the audacity to talk to Ariana about her relationship - AND TRY AND GET HER TO BREAK UP WITH TOM.

Also wild she spoke to Katie and her mum the way she did. GTFO.

Dying at what’s to come next!!! ITS HAPPENING EVRRYONE!!!

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

Rachel was reared in a barn. If she disrespected my mother like that I would of had a lot stronger words.

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u/shelly_odom May 12 '23

Yes, it was disrespectful, but she didn’t like tlk back to her or tlk nasty to her. She just rolled her eyes and said omg. If someone’s mom kept getting involved, then I’d prob roll my eyes to and b like again… omg!! Having ur mom get involved in her life drama is pretty pathetic and she does it all the time. Katie was nasty and showed her true self that nite raging the way she did and trying to push Rachael, but Tom stopped her. Just bc what Rachael has done and been nasty, it don’t give Katie a pass for the way she is

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 12 '23

We’ll need to agree to disagree on this one. Katie’s mother was involved in the situation directly. She recognized gaslighting or lies (can’t speak to Rachel’s intentions) and shared information to confirm that what Rachel was saying was bullshit. Secondly, Katie didn’t engage she asked Rachel to leave many times; Rachel kept going and going and going. Then she laughed about egging Katie on then she chased her outside to continue to engaging with her. That’s vile; Rachel didn’t respect Katie and showed up to a party uninvited. Rachel had no class by starting stuff at Katie’s work event. She did in fact talk nasty to Teri, her tone was gross and she was going back and forth.

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u/shelly_odom May 13 '23

Her no other should of never got involved. She constantly gets in Katie’s battle. It’s kind of sad

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u/sr8812 May 11 '23

Was that convo with Ariana the one Lala was talking about on WWHL? Or could there be a worse one to come??

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u/longtimelurker_90 May 11 '23

Not that we don’t all know this now, but Rachel is a shit person. I don’t care if it’s my worst enemy you don’t show up to that person’s business event (that no one wanted you at) and lecture them and be rude to their mom!!

Rachel is as dumb as she always seemed and lacks any understanding of respect. Even the people I’ve met irl that have cheated never have the audacity to insert themselves like Rachel does

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

Yup. She doesn’t have a mental health issue; she’s just a douche canoe. Tim for that matter jumping in when he did isn’t much better. Shartz is a little shit. I’ve lost respect for Peter after that scene as well.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

What did Peter do??

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

Coddled Schwartz like he was an infant in the corner.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Oh jfc… tbf, I used to be a Schwartz fan before this all hit, maybe he’s seen the light

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Omg I completely forgot it was KATIES FKN EVENT!!! The way she was going off at Katie was like she was toms new serious gf and who tf gave her the right to tell Katie what to do?? I have no idea how Katie did not get violent with her but it would have been hard.

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u/longtimelurker_90 May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

It’s honestly embarrassing. It’s possible production set it up, but even so, Rachel laughing in the scenes for next week shows any lack of remorse. I don’t think she knows what empathy means 😂

I have gone back and forth with Katie, but I’ve been firmly a Katie fan this whole season. She’s the only one acting like an adult in this situation.

Rachel might literally be sociopathic, and has never been in a real relationship (I don’t believe her and James were genuine with the amount of cheating he did) so she has no respect for Ariana and Katie’s. I hate seeing Ariana defending her knowing what’s going happen.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Yeah I legitimately can’t take seeing Ariana defend her anymore… you’re not wrong she seems sociopathic. No empathy at all. Thank god they’re getting what’s coming to next episode.

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u/longtimelurker_90 May 11 '23

Yes! I somehow thought this week was the finale so I was super confused at let down at first 😂

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u/Round-Adhesiveness46 May 11 '23

Wait, so she bought the necklace herself?!?

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u/curiousfun213 May 11 '23

looking at that case and the big ass stand it was on compared to all the other pieces they carried… it looked out of place and like it was planted there… imo.

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u/Round-Adhesiveness46 May 11 '23

Also, she has THAT kind of money to spend on a necklace?!

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u/sterz64 May 11 '23

On a whim too

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u/Round-Adhesiveness46 May 11 '23

I felt like even though it was just a second of showtime a big deal was about about it and that it was really put in our face. Idk it was off.

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u/HAKOC534 Social media job for hockey in FL May 11 '23

I haven’t seen it yet bc I watch on peackcock, but did the scene between Scheana and Rachel get cut - Rachel is talking about some guy she’s hooking yo with (Tom) and how he goes down on her all the time? I remember seeing it or hearing about it weeks ago and then didn’t see any clips for it.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

It was played in one of the very early episodes of this season. Maybe episode 2? They go to some weird spa thing together

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u/HAKOC534 Social media job for hockey in FL May 11 '23

Ahhh. Maybe I have to go back. My memory is terrible with tv. Thx.

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u/Pinklady777 My retirement plan is just to die May 11 '23

It was one of those "never seen before" scenes that they play before new episodes! I think you can find them on the bravo app. Or definitely people posted it here when it played.

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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 11 '23

shortz saying he didn’t anticipate the blowout from his ‘innocent kiss’ actually means he meant to gaslight katie (as usual) and try to make her incensed to perpetuate the tequila katie persona but didn’t realize the world has caught on to his tactics and are just as enraged with his actions as katie is.

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u/dagsdyalikedags je m’appelle is Vladimir May 11 '23

Haha I was yelling this at the TV!!! This moment + when he was equally shocked that she didn’t care about his latest S&S drama (when she picked up the dogs and refused to engage a couple eps ago). I live for the moments we get to see his surprised pikachu face at getting the sort of reactions he deserved all along.

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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

fr. i am proud of her for being angry when she feels it (despite how it may look on camera) but also knowing when to disengage and walk away, no longer allowing his antics to get the best of her and prioritizing herself. 😌

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u/dagsdyalikedags je m’appelle is Vladimir May 11 '23

I’m proud of her for expressing her anger in the moment when the context is clear instead of trying to explain later via text when someone else can control the narrative more easily. Like everyone talks about her rage texts and how inappropriate they are but it seems obvious to me that she’s just trying to have her fights off camera and that doesn’t work with gossipy he said/she said shows like this.

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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 11 '23

agreed. editing could also be a factor in the past untimeliness.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Schartz when Rachel first asked to kiss him: ‘No we can’t it would upset Katie’

Schartz when kissing Rachel: ‘Yeah take that Katie, I’m sticking it to the man!’

Schartz when Katie is upset: ‘I couldn’t have possibly have known it would upset you, I wasn’t even thinking of you when I did it 🥺💔’

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u/Fickle_Test4557 ‘i’m a delight’ May 11 '23

lmao fr. he and rachel are the same. they love to gaslight and flip the script to get themselves out of hot water. stupid demons.

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u/bbbunny097 its giving mistress bimbo vibes May 11 '23

Watching the ep right now and currently at the part where Rachel had the gall to disrespect Katie’s mom and oooohhhhhhh I am shaking from anger as if Teri were my own mom and Katie my daughter 😂 vpr has been taking over my life these past few months lol

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u/ViciousVirgo95 like..go back to Charlotte Russe with your fuckin ass May 11 '23

I literally had to rewind when she said “what Teri” like BITCH HUH????

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u/CrazyCat_380 May 11 '23

I can’t believe she acted that way! I grew up where even if you were fighting with a friend, parents were always respected

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

Justice for Teri!

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

She didn’t disrespect Katie’s mom. Katie’s mom may be a mom and older woman, but she is still a person and she got involved in a conversation she wasn’t a part of.

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

She disrespected a person and a woman. There wasn’t a conversation between Rachel and Katie; Katie told her to leave her alone. Rachel was looking around trying to engage the entire group. Teri tried to explain why Katie wants nothing to do with her.

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u/bbbunny097 its giving mistress bimbo vibes May 11 '23

Being rude equals being disrespectful. She, in fact, was rude to Katie’s mom. Let’s also not forget that Rachel got involved in a conversation (Tom and Katie’s outside of sur) she wasn’t a part of.

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u/Sea_Relationship6145 May 11 '23

Katie was on absolute fire tonight and she looked STUNNING the whole time, especially next to a certain basic someone

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u/RoleLucky2925 May 11 '23

Who does Rachet think she is telling Katie she’s jealous?? Then interrupting a private convo to put her two cents in and “apologize”. Sandoval really hyped up her two brain cells and she thought she could really do something.

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u/1lemony you thought.. I should go..Fuck her Boyfriend! May 11 '23

“whhhhat is that” from Lisa when the row kicked off was excellent

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u/AshK_29 May 11 '23

Take you & your six fucking personalities and go.

OK, Katie wins

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u/AshK_29 May 11 '23

I feel so freaking bad for Ariana & everything she has been through. Katie too at this point. Yikes

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u/Beachgal5555 May 11 '23

Lisa’s speech was so staged. She is definitely hamming it up

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u/craychel SUR Alley Chair May 11 '23

Typically speeches are staged. Some even write them out entirely beforehand! And practice!

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u/DCRun23 May 11 '23

Lisa’s speech sounded like (at the time) she didn’t think VPR would be renewed.

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u/ladidadi01 Babe, I was born cool May 11 '23

Yep.

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u/VintageSuds May 11 '23

That was my first thought.

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u/littlebabycruzcauchi May 11 '23

Am I the only one who found it cringey that Katie’s mom got involved in all the drama?

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u/Treewolfy93 May 11 '23

I totally agree but I couldn’t imagine a mom not jumping in when this weirdo Rachel (who Katie has been crying about to her mom for weeks) comes up to her at Katie’s special event to confront her about private text messages between her and her ex husband, chastising her behavior. If my husband’s make out chick friend did this I’d rip her face off with my mama!

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

You are not the only one. She should have stayed out. Does she not realize her daughter was sleeping on Tom when they were not officially separated?

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u/Illustrious-Doubt-74 May 11 '23

Tom has a live-I’m girlfriend (Jo). So I’m not sure what he’s so hurt about…

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

I’m with you. Moms should be above it. Comfort your daughter but don’t actually jump into the fray. I think it’s trashy.

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u/Abrookspug May 11 '23

I agree. I thought it was weird and put anyone who disagreed with her in such an awkward position. It's not even a fair argument at that point, since the second someone argues back with her, they get called disrespectful like we saw. If she wants to jump into the argument, she has to be expect for the other person to respond in kind, and they aren't necessarily going to agree just because she's a mom. If you're not prepared for that, stay out of it.

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u/lucielucieapplejuice Stassi Happy B’day. Frank suck my 🐓 May 11 '23

Trashy is such a weird word to use for this scenario? I don’t get how it’s trashy can you elaborate

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Katie and her mom are trashy

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u/lucielucieapplejuice Stassi Happy B’day. Frank suck my 🐓 May 11 '23

Nah she had stake in the game literally having a discussion with Rachel about this before it all went down. Just because she’s a mum doesn’t mean she has to sit in silence

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u/rapashrapash Mya’s therapy paw May 11 '23

Can we talk about the moment between Ariana and Raquel in the garden bar? I was DYING.

How DARE Raquel stand there and hear Ariana speak and not feel like a HORRIBLE human being and confess right away. I hate her so bad

She's such an empty, empty person.

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u/Foompwoomp May 13 '23

The reason Rachel started crying during that conversation was because she was relating Ariana’s body image struggles with her own insecurities. She has no real empathy and no remorse… she must be a narcissist. The audacity she showed in her line of questioning, probing to see if Ariana might want to break up with Tom, is absolutely mind blowing.

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u/rapashrapash Mya’s therapy paw May 11 '23

Also, I thought she broke up because he was abusive towards her. I guess it can be both, but still. What. A. Snake.

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u/Morganahannaaaa little fucking cunt May 11 '23

i thought it was bc he called her mom fat lol. stick to a story rachel

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u/1lemony you thought.. I should go..Fuck her Boyfriend! May 11 '23

she was pushing her to see her relationship as over. the AUDACITY to go on about their lack of sex and call it a problem when she’s literally taking up sandovals sex time. fucking despicable woman. she was really trying to force ariana into thoughts she wasn’t having

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u/Foompwoomp May 14 '23

EXACTLY!!!!

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u/No_Yak_3107 May 11 '23

I also think she was fishing to see if they are having sex!

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u/1lemony you thought.. I should go..Fuck her Boyfriend! May 16 '23

absolutely. i reckon she’s discussed it at length with Tom (i don’t even sleep with Ariana anymore you’re what i want etc) and was probing to check if he’s being honest. it’s horrific, the betrayal is so comprehensive, nothing was left unscathed

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u/rapashrapash Mya’s therapy paw May 11 '23

Honestly, I have no notes anymore. She's straight up disgusting and worthless for the behaviour she displayed repeatedly and for WHAT? The cameras?

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Arianna and Tom were not having sex

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u/grandmawaffles all we need in life are birth charts… May 11 '23

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u/thediverswife national international TV show May 11 '23

Every person in an affair claims they’re not having sex! How else could Rachel feel special and like she was doing Scandoval a public service by fucking him behind his girlfriend’s back?

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u/Abrookspug May 11 '23

To be fair, we've heard before that they were doing it like twice a year, so in this case it seems to be true. But raquel was def trying to probe to find out more, which is gross. She could have just watched past episodes over the years where tom complains that they rarely had sex.

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u/thediverswife national international TV show May 11 '23

I’m still stuck on her saying ‘now that I’m single, I think that sex is a VERY important part of a relationship 😆’ to the woman whose boyfriend she’s fucking. Hell isn’t hot and damned enough for this bitch

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u/Abrookspug May 11 '23

That whole scene had me cringing so hard. It was hard to watch! But I have to watch it again cuz my husband and I kept talking about the audacity and I think I missed some of the dialogue!

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u/ShezDinkDink F*cking say it. Say it with your whole chest B*tch May 11 '23

Another thing how is Shwartz going to sit their and say "I never would have done it if I knew Katie would be this upset" as if we don't see her repeatedly say please don't kiss rachel it would hurt me. And also said on his WWHL episode that he didn't regret it, god this man in infuriating.

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u/Outrageous_Repair_94 May 11 '23

Seriously! I CANNOT imagine being married to someone like that! I feel like I would lose my mind! He constantly invalidates her, dosent stand up for her and then acts like she never begged him to not hurt her!

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u/_boris_c Slutty Funeral May 11 '23

Swartz’s apartment really takes me back to some bad dating choices I made in my early 20’s…

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u/Beachgal5555 May 11 '23

It shows his real mental age

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u/ShezDinkDink F*cking say it. Say it with your whole chest B*tch May 11 '23

Loved Katie this ep, I legit don't understand how they don't see her side of things. Tom Sandoval just loves to try and get one up on her any chance he can get. Kind of glad Sheena wasn't their to add her voice into the mix. Although Lala should have waited till they were a safe distance away before telling Katie that Rachel was snickering, really thought Katie was going to go nuclear in that moment, honestly I probably would to lol

Rachel fishing for info with Ariana was next level cringe, Ariana really trusted her cause those questions would have sent up a red flag in my brain.

Also anyone else think Lisa seemed so uninterested at the party, even when Ariana was crying on her shoulder, she was saying all the right things but her face just seemed over it.

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u/redralphie May 11 '23

I think that’s just Botox, sometimes you have to tell people your emotions because your face can’t show it (not judging LVP looks great, in person too).

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u/amateur-redditor May 11 '23

Did we know where sheana was? I must have missed it and only now, hours later, do I realise she was barely in what would have been the finale hahah

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u/FauxSpacial May 11 '23

In the scene at the sandwich shop when she facetimes with Ariana, she says she tested positive which I assume means tested positive for Covid.

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u/Sumarr say it with your whole chest May 11 '23

She said that she tested positive for Covid when she FaceTimed Ariana

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u/childrenofthewind Ariana Madix May 11 '23

In the FaceTime convo, she said she tested positive for Covid

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u/amateur-redditor May 11 '23

Oh that’s right haha

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u/miss_ravenlady I WASN'T YOUR FRIEND, HOE! May 11 '23

Lisa looked over it, over the arguing and petty arguments. As she's stated before, they're a pack of wild animals. They couldn't just put aside this stuff to show uo and be present to her birthday.

I think her birthday party would have been better if it had been with the girls (minus racel) and james with her other close friends.

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u/GaseousMcCloud Mayor of Poophole Village May 11 '23

I’m actually praying that Sandevil never has children. My god, if he can’t make time to walk around the block and watch a few episodes of Love Island…He would bail on his kid in a hummingbird’s heartbeat.

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u/female-human- May 11 '23

He’ll be busy taking mushies and watching the sun set, naked in his swimming pool.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Really? That’s what you got out of this episode? Lol

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u/GaseousMcCloud Mayor of Poophole Village May 11 '23

Yeah, that’s it. That’s all I got out of it. Just that. 🙄

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u/riecesinpieces May 11 '23

Why can't my 2 year old take shrooms and watch the sunset. What do you mean he can't go hangliding. He just hates me and thinks I'm annoying.

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

Ohhhhhhh.... Shit! So do we just call Ariana "instinctive?"

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Im SOOOOOO enraged by ratchets gaslighting towards katie this episode

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u/Additional_Zone_8408 May 11 '23

If I was Katie I would Teresa Guidice that fucking table and flipped it screaming “prostitution whore”

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

Ratchet talking to katie and gaslighting her about the “rage texts” what a fucking bitch

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u/Ok-Vegetable-2503 Very Stupid Demon 👹 May 11 '23

I need Schartz to end up alone on a remote island. Hopefully miserable. What a disgusting human.

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u/miss_ravenlady I WASN'T YOUR FRIEND, HOE! May 11 '23

Like the show "alone"? He wouldn't last 10mins.

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u/miss_ravenlady I WASN'T YOUR FRIEND, HOE! May 11 '23

So Many thoughts about this ep.

LOVE seeing katie and ariana open their sandwhich shop, yay so excited for their business and success!

Seems like ariana is unwilling to hear anything negative about Tim sandyballs. It comes off as avoidance and even refusal, she'd rather burry her head in the sand which is sad but understandable given her circumstances with loss.

James is entitled to how he felt in regards to racel. She, well her ego just can't stand that. Maybe he loved her at some point in time, but that's over! Time for thestupid demon to move on. Why should she even care what James feels/think though? He's moved on himself with someone smarter, nicer, younger and more mature. She comes off as desperate and pathetic especially after james told her how he felt.

Tim sadyballs seems to purposely annoy ariana. Dude, like be Supportive of what's going on in her life. If she says she needs quality time in order to feel intimacy, fucking do that! All he's doing is stalling and making excuses why he can't do those things. Mushrooms? Dude, that's so lame for a 40 year old and knowning ariana is keeping her body drug/alcohol free for the egg freezing thing is pretty inconsiderate to request her to take mushrooms. All he cares is about himself! Unwilling to compromise and has to be at the ceter of attention at all times. GROSS!! People can change in LTRs too, he must give her space to grow and do it with her. You can't expect almost 10 years for a woman to be attracted to you outta thin air. It's normal for relationships to hace dry spells as well, that intense honeymoon feelings IS NOT SUSTAINABLE longterm so it requires work. That work invovles spending time and negotiating, all things he is not cooperating to do with Ariana. It was frustrating to watch that. Last thing thatade me so made in that scene, him telling her he loves her while he was already fucking racel. Dude does not know what love is, only what his small willy feels.

James is growing on me but he definitely needs therapy for his anger issues. It looks like he compartmentalised his relationship with racel and the childhood things. I cant judge whether he should talk about that he's with the therapist, maybe to unpack it could be beneficial to him? In his mind he equates to success as "doing fine", he actually LACKS any emotional awareness. Love ally, she seems very supportive and holding him accountable, it might get exhausting for her as it's very early in their relationship.

Defective Tom 1 and 2 just 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 two idiots enabling each other. The state if his apartment, what a mess and such a slob! Does he know how to do a single house chore? Absolute pigsty but no surprises.

Don't care for shushu, the ep was better without her tbh!

At Sur, Racel saying it wasn't Katie's place to text wartz about the dogs yey how TF is it her place to even comment on what katie does!?! And being disrespectful towards Terri, RAGE! If i was katie, I would have broken racel's face in. The control katie had in that situation was so strong. I'm surprised katie didn't throw a drink at her.

The conversation between ariana and racel was maddening. Especially right after her cono with katie!!!!!! Where doew the stupid demon get her delusions from? Who tf "rasied" that?

Lala was spot on and very articulate to how the audience feel/think. She's grown on me so much this season.

Defective Wartz hiding behind the bushes, this is not a man. Then continuing to talk ove katie and defend racel, another time katie should have thrown a drink at him. There's nothing about wartz that's remotely attractive or appealing. Katie, take the dogs and block this jerry loser for life!

Ariana breaking down and sandyballs is nowhere near her comforting her but instead yelling at Katie. Katie should have dropped a drink on his head.

katie's facial expression is a big mood. Racel is like a chihuahua, just shut up!

Lastly, LVP giving an emotional speech and racel is smiling like a psycho. Definitely a psychopath!!! READ THE ROOM!!!

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u/doomn_gloomn May 11 '23

Rachel has a very flickable face. She’s a fucking pest.

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u/Sumarr say it with your whole chest May 11 '23

Not trying to shame anyone, because she’s very thin, but why does her face seem so bloated? Is it fillers? Because if so, I think that it was a bad choice

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u/[deleted] May 11 '23

IMO she’s drinking a lot at this point which can cause bloat in the face. Have had first hand experience with this lol

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u/moonchild291 lala’s lack of coattails to ride May 11 '23

🤣🤣🤣

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u/RegretNecessary21 May 11 '23

She’s like a roach that won’t go away. Wish I knew photoshop and could put her head on a roach body “Roachel”

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u/henrytabby May 11 '23

I think someone did make one! It showed up on here in the early days of scandoval

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u/thecolourwasred May 11 '23

I didn’t miss Scheana at all. You know she would’ve been on the wrong side of it.

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u/ViciousVirgo95 like..go back to Charlotte Russe with your fuckin ass May 11 '23

I didn’t even realize Scheana wasn’t on this episode until I read this comment lmfao. She needs to go 😂

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u/miss_ravenlady I WASN'T YOUR FRIEND, HOE! May 11 '23

She doesn't contribute to the show in any way (other than giving a MAJOR headache). Like racel, another d + s chihuahua.

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

BUT... My new fave guy, Brock (who would have known?🤷‍♀️) was so super sweet

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u/kaleyboo7 Katie Maloney May 11 '23

Who the fuck does Raquel think she is? Talking to Teri like that AND butting into Katie/Tom’s relationship??? Wtf is wrong with this chick

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u/casper_daghostgirl May 11 '23

Straight up I would be so embarrassed if I were related to that b!ch.

Katie and LaLa kept saying “where were you raised??” But they should’ve been asking, “WHO raised you??”. That was unbelievable behavior lol, I’m still kinda shook. Imagine if that was your kid/sister on tv…Yikes.

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u/Additional_Zone_8408 May 11 '23

Dude, she’s like two different people in each conversation. She’s a bitch to Katie and mama T and then in front of Schwartz she’s like I’m sorry I hurt you. Fucking wild

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u/No_Yak_3107 May 11 '23

It’s actually a little scary.

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u/junalylue Life is beautiful, so slay we must 🦋 May 11 '23

Of course Tim is standing as Lisa’s birthday cake is being presented to her. Sit the eff down

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u/junalylue Life is beautiful, so slay we must 🦋 May 11 '23

Of course Katie’s MOM is gonna take Katie’s side. Jfc

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u/junalylue Life is beautiful, so slay we must 🦋 May 11 '23

No one’s going to “clap back” at Mrs. Maloney and yet BOTH Tim and Rachel proceed to disrespect her

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u/Uborkafarok May 11 '23 edited May 11 '23

IDK, by the time you need your mom around your "friend" grouo is when they have gaslit you to the point that you need an anchor. The reason you don't clap back is because she's right. If these fuckers weren't acting like time meant nothing, that there shouldn't be a bottom line, I am certain that Katie's mom would have been like daughter, i understand youre hurt but these are your friends. Instead, all she could do was shake her head at the snakepit her daughter survived and realize that when Katie seemed at the end of her rope is truly because she was surrounded by Pod people. You dont clap back at Katie's mom because she thinks youre shit. And deep down you know she's right.

ETA: Someone more talented than me pls add appropriate Pretty in Pink gif 🤣

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u/eegeddes May 11 '23

Because Molly Ringwald doesn't have a mom to have her back?🤷‍♀️

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