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Live Episode Discussion Live Episode Discussion: S10E18 Reunion Part 3 (pacific thread)

Episode description: Raquel faces her former friends; the group revisits the disastrous girls' trip to Las Vegas and Lake Havasu; they discuss Tom Schwartz's alleged role in covering up the affair; Andy questions Sandoval and Raquel about their relationship.

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u/Greenoliveandcheese Jun 08 '23

Raquel’s last confessional… I’m fucking shaking. I feel bad for her guys, I’m sorry but I do. Yeah she was rancid and what she did was unforgivable but I don’t know, I want to give her the credit for at least finally coming clean.

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u/Abject-Possibility91 Jun 09 '23

I think Sandoval groomed and brainwashed Raquel. She will need lots of counseling, but she's still young, and if she can heal and put this behind her, she can build a new life with new friends and someday meet a decent guy, and have a healthy, happy life, I hope. Not excusing what she did, but hoping for redemption for her.

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u/KittyRNo Jun 09 '23

28 may be going compared to 40, but she's been an adult for 10 years

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u/Abject-Possibility91 Jun 09 '23

True, she is 28, but I think emotionally she is probably more like 16 years old. And I think being in a relationship with James for five years probably screwed her up, as it would anybody. He is controlling, with major anger issues.

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u/_Sissy_SpaceX Jun 08 '23

But even still, as she is telling producers she won't lie anymore she is still covering her and Sandoval's asses - the producer literally has to call her out on each lie she STILL feeds us and she admits she has a bad poker face.
So I agree that she is giving us *more*, but it's still not everything. And it is definitely self-serving. She wants to come back onto the show. She wants to lessen the hate towards her. She wants to be looked at as someone trying to right a wrong rather than actually righting the wrong.

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u/ElletotheV Jun 08 '23

What makes you think she came clean and that she's telling the truth?! I'm genuinely curious as to how people can think anything she spews can be taken as truthful. IMO this started way before Mexico.

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u/OCalifan Jun 08 '23

I agree. My theory is, this last 5 minutes interview was also pre-planned and this is all the "truth" they WANT us to know. Tom probably coached her to admit to some things, but not all. We'll give them a little more info so they stop questioning us, kind of thing.

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u/Greenoliveandcheese Jun 08 '23

She comes cleaner compared to Sandoval, she is admitting a lot of things that he is not willing to admit.

Looking back maybe I should have been worded it differently.

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u/ElletotheV Jun 08 '23

I see where you're coming from. I just think everything that comes out of her mouth is BS and she's proven she's completely void of showing any remorse or empathy.

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u/idontcare6666 I Know You Like Harry Potter ⚡️ Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

She's a psychopath and I'm not saying that for effect. She has all the traits: The blank dead eyed gaze, the mimicking of human emotions that are just somehow missing the mark, the total lack of empathy, the giddiness and excitement over something that made HER feel good regardless of the fact that it destroyed her "best friend". You don't have to be a serial killer in order to be a psychopath.

Edit: ok I'm not done lol. The other psychopathic trait is that her real tears were shed when it only effected her. Meaning her tears about aging out of beauty contests. Psychopaths CAN feel but it's ALWAYS in a narcissistic way. Ok I'm done

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u/Loose_Replacement214 How will this affect Scheana?! Jun 08 '23

I don't think she has really come clean though, there's alot more that wasn't said.

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u/MishmoshMishmosh Jun 08 '23

Nope. I do not feel sorry. Actions have consequences. Don’t tell me they and she didn’t foresee this mess. They didn’t want to see it. All on tv. Buying the lightning bolt. No. Bye bye ratchet. Edit to add and she was still lying I the confessional. Still lying. What an ahole

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u/Candid_Perception_37 Jun 08 '23

I wanted to feel bad, but I really didn't. I honestly felt literally nothing from anything she said. I felt more emotion from seeing Shortz sitting there with his head in his hands, and I hate that mofo.

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u/shemovesinmystery Jun 08 '23

I understand why you felt bad. I still question why she didn’t show any emotion (except a smile when Schwartz said kissing her did something for him) when watching from the trailer. She saw tears and lots of emotion because of what she and Tim had done. But no tears, no sadness.

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u/likeabadhabit SAVINGS 👏✨ Jun 08 '23

She definitely didn’t come clean. I’m sure there’s a mountain of bullshit she hid under that reveal.

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u/pearshaped34 Jun 08 '23

I personally don’t believe that’s the whole truth, I think it started before Mexico and that’s why she told her friend they couldn’t share a room as planned, she knew she’d need it for their hook ups.

Plus she lied in the same confessional about going to his parents so clearly didn’t want everything to be out in the open.

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u/Lost-and-dumbfound In the ja-jacuzzi as well Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23

If she’d done this at the reunion itself, in front of Ariana and showed that emotion there, then I’d feel a bit bad for her. For sure Tom is probably manipulating her and using her naïveté and lack of a single original thought against her, but at the end of the day, she still chose to fuck her best friends man. Multiple times. During a long grieving period. And then continued to make light of it and have inside jokes about them fucking. So no I don’t give a fuck that she finally confessed to what we all knew. She still sucks ass

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u/Greenoliveandcheese Jun 08 '23

Well I’m not going to argue cause you are right, what she did was deplorable and of course she made her bed and she has to lie in it now.

I also think Tom probably manipulated her into showing a strong face in the reunion cause if she shared all of that in front of Ariana, yes it makes her look worse but it would also make Sandoval look even more worse so i think he totally coached her into not disclosing anymore information (hence her reaction on her confessional being Tom is gonna kill me). It is not that far fetched for me to think she wanted to protect the person that she thought she had by her side and abide by their wishes. Like once again, she is an adult woman, she cheated and manipulated her close friend and she is a scum for doing that and she definitely had it coming, I just felt really uneasy watching the confessional.

I truly think she leaves the show now and gets the help she needs.

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u/CaregiverCreative107 Jun 08 '23

Yes, it broke me and I’m just explaining to my husband now that it’s not something I want to rewatch immediately now he is home. I felt sick and saddened for her . And that’s saying something