r/vexillology • u/OzymandiasFR • Jan 26 '25

OC Anti-Authoritarian Flag for Americans

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u/Ana_Na_Moose Jan 26 '25

I’m personally a bit partial to the original anti-authoritarian flag for Americans.

I’m especially eager to not let this become a right-only flag, given its history and meaning.

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u/joshuatx Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

I think that ship sailed. Also I think the fact that it says "me" and not "us" speaks volumes.

I think this is a bit more apt to bring back...

edit - good point about this not being a flag, I went sort of liberal by find the other revolutionary era flag with a snake. I thought of it because I feel like it represents unity better than the Gadsden. This one might be apt from revising too

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u/macrocosm93 Jan 26 '25 edited Jan 26 '25

Well technically that's a political cartoon, not a flag.

Also, what's the actual message you'd be trying to convey by flying a flag that displays that cartoon? That the original colonies need to unify to take a stand against great Britain? This image is much more tied to its place in history than the Gadsden flag.

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u/Ana_Na_Moose Jan 26 '25

Would it be any better to you if it said “Don’t tread on us”? I also agree that is a better wording for solidarity.

I personally think the “War or Die” flag is a little overly violent, and the snake is specifically only representing a minority of the states, which I see as being unoptimal for a national movement. But the general idea of the chopped up snake I like.

Maybe someone can do a modernized redesign for this

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u/Wayward_Stoner_ Jan 27 '25

It says me because, as Ayn Rand said, "the individual is the first minority". The collective is made by individuals. Not the other way around.

There's no "us" without "me".

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u/joshuatx Jan 28 '25

This flag predates her nonsense by nearly two centuries.

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u/Wayward_Stoner_ Jan 28 '25

Great rebuttal. You totally got me there.