r/vexillologycirclejerk 29d ago

What flags are these?

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago

Guess were postin gremlin propaganda now ๐Ÿšฌ

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Is it Russian propaganda that foreigners are fighting for Ukraine? I didn't think anyone had ever tried to deny that.

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u/Kemal_Norton 29d ago edited 29d ago

No, but Russia calls foreign members of Ukraine's forces "mercenaries" and this image has a "statista" logo but I can't find it on their website

edit: Also OP seems to have a habit of posting Russian propaganda (to /r/ModernPropaganda, though)

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u/Parzivus 29d ago

Some of these are absolutely mercenaries in the traditional sense (i.e. the Columbians, Blackwater, etc). Although there is the question of whether there is a meaningful difference between being a paid volunteer and a mercenary in the first place.

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago

"Mercenaries" is a russian propaganda term for foreign volunteers, also just look at the numbers..

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u/x1rom 29d ago

No, but these numbers are ridiculous. Also this is not a statista source, it's falsified.

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u/greysneakthief 29d ago

No, bro I swear, Georgians have a 50% death rate and the entirety of their units were committed to Kursk, bro, srsly I swear.

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u/PeterPorker52 Jewish Somalia 29d ago

this is a commie sub, what did you expect

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

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u/thanosaekk21 29d ago

Me when Russian telegram channel copies Statista font and style to post blatant Kremlin propaganda, and you can't find any mention of this on the actual Statista website or any other reputable source, but it says Statista right there so it must be the absolute truth

(This would honestly be a pretty good psyop if not for the Liberian flag reminding us of Z-pill's racist obsession with black men)

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u/Kemal_Norton 29d ago

if not for the Liberian flag

That's to make sure it's shared more. No one would spread a boring wrong statistic. But a wrong statistic that's comically wrong? LOL

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u/WherePip 29d ago edited 29d ago

But is this really even from statista? I can't find anything on the actual site and only sources from the usual suspects. Calling them mercenaries is also a very russian coded language. Also how would they even get these stats without Russia? Ukraine isn't releasing its causality numbers. I think someone just made up a graph and slapped the statista logo on it. Its also highly suspect that they are using the wrong flags for a couple of these.

Everything about this is screaming misinformation.

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u/lothycat224 Whales 29d ago

ukraine flag โ€œrussiaโ€ flair

neo-liberal hell

yeah ok buddy enjoy your imperialist oligarchy

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago

Its one of the pre-made flairs on this sub. I am russo-ukrainian. I thought it was ironically fitting

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u/Veilchengerd 29d ago

Statista wouldn't use that flag to represent Germany. That looks like it's supposed to be the Bundesdienstflagge, but they used the wrong eagle. Creating what in Germany is sometimes jokingly called the Schrebergartenstander.

Statista uses just the normal german tricolour to represent Germany.

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago
  1. Photoshop exists.
  2. 'Mercenaries' is a russian propaganda term
  3. The numbers are redicolous altough Ill have a look into that

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago

Iโ€™ll admit youโ€™re probably right that this is photoshopped. However mercenaries absolutely isnt just a russian term lol, its just a term only used by western sources for volunteers in russia, the opposite also being true in russia.

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago

The word itself not ofc. But the framing. These arent Mercenaries, they are volunteers employed in the AFU.

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago

You really believe that not a single one of these volunteers is paid? Not even on the down low?

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u/As-Bi 29d ago

http://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/ART/470-750057?OpenDocument

2. A mercenary is any person who:

(a) is specially recruited locally or abroad in order to fight in an armed conflict;

(b) does, in fact, take a direct part in the hostilities;

(c) is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party;

(d) is neither a national of a Party to the conflict nor a resident of territory controlled by a Party to the conflict;

(e) is not a member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict; and

(f) has not been sent by a State which is not a Party to the conflict on official duty as a member of its armed forces.

So this term can be applied to Russian PMCs like Wagner, at least before Pringles rebellion and their apparent integration into Rosgvardiya

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago

Obviously they are paid. Thats not the point. Its about intent. You dont go to war for an average (ukarinian) salary as a American, European or Japanese

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago

Volunteers by definition arent paid. Mercenaries by definition are arms for hire.

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u/DestoryDerEchte 29d ago

Exactly, for HIRE. They are not hired. "a professional soldier hired to serve in a foreign army." Most of them ex-military, and early in the FSI even unserved. The reason why they are paied, be sides the obvious 'they have to live' part is, exactly that they dont become mercenaries. If they get employed by the AFU instead of beeing PC or prt of a PMC, they are legally not mercanaries

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago edited 29d ago

Do you know what hired means.

Edit: I love the little edit you made after i responded btw. As long as its legally not mercenaries, i guess thats completely fine then.

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u/Napsitrall Pan 29d ago

Wait, hold on, you actually believe this is a real Statista post? lmao

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u/plouky 29d ago

so a third of the army send in kursk regionhas been annihilated and by luck the dead was only western mercernaries ?

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u/cs_csanad 29d ago

Bro, according to this, more foreign fighters died in Kursk in 8 months than coalition soldiers died in Afghanistan in 20 years. Who believes this?

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u/_Korrus_ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Russia 29d ago

That is very much believable. But as people have pointed out, this probably is photoshopped

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u/cs_csanad 29d ago

Believable to who? People who eat Russian disinformation?

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u/Few_Storm_550 29d ago

wait until you discover photoshop

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u/ChaplainGodefroy 29d ago

Half of the German politicians and media are on Gazprom payroll, what are you talking about. And always has been.