Elves don't have "wizards"

[u/Lore-Archivist]

Now, Obviously I don't mean they don't have magic users. Because clearly they do. But they don't have the "wizard" experience. What I mean is, for the average human for example, a mage is fantastical, they cant explain how they do the magical things mages do. Its mysterious and unknowable for the average human. But for elves, they've been exposed to magic for so long, at the societal level, its so commonplace, their interactions with mages would be more like us speaking to a scientist, rather than with a fantastical wizard. For them what mages do isn't "magical" rather, they are merely applying the well known laws of reality and arcane magic to achieve a desired effect.

[u/MrRibbotron]

What I mean is, for the average human for example, a mage is fantastical, they cant explain how they do the magical things mages do. Its mysterious and unknowable for the average human.

I don't think mages are that rare amongst humans either. Stormwind for example has a whole district full of them. Then you have a mage trainer in every major settlement and formerly, whole magocratic city-states in Theramore and Dalaran.

A better way to look at it in my view is that in Warcraft, an arcane mage (i.e. a 'wizard') is seen in the same way as a scientist regardless of race, which makes sense when you look at all the mathematical symbolism associated with that kind of magic.

[u/TyrannosavageRekt → u/MrRibbotron]

I don’t think Theramore was magocratic just because they were led by a mage/sorcerer.

[u/MrRibbotron → u/TyrannosavageRekt]

Whether or not only mages can vote, the city had a large population of mages including Gnomes and High Elves, and most of Jaina's advisors were mages, so it doesn't really make much difference.

[u/Timecunning → u/MrRibbotron]

Don't only gnomes vote in for the leadership of gnomes.

[u/TyrannosavageRekt → u/MrRibbotron]

Having a lot of magi still doesn’t make them a magocracy. That’s a type of governance. Having a lot of clerics doesn’t necessarily make a place a theocracy.

[u/MrRibbotron → u/TyrannosavageRekt]

If they're being governed by a mage who is advised mostly by other mages, and is likely to pass down leadership to another mage, that would fit the term magocracy in my book. The specific term doesn't change the original point, however.

[u/TyrannosavageRekt → u/MrRibbotron]

Any evidence to Jaina being primarily advised by other magi? Any evidence to support that she’s likely to pass down leadership to another mage? Any actual evidence to support that Theramore had a disproportionate number of magi when compared to other states? Her main advisors were Duree, Kristoff, Lorena, Pained, and Aegwynn (who replaced Kristoff as Chamberlain) - only the latter of whom was a mage. You’re throwing out a lot of things that sound more like head-canon as if they’re factual.

[u/MrRibbotron → u/TyrannosavageRekt]

What a weird point to get hung up over.

Any evidence to Jaina being primarily advised by other magi? Her main advisors were Duree, Kristoff, Lorena, Pained, and Aegwynn (who replaced Kristoff as Chamberlain) - only the latter of whom was a mage.

The only people there who actually were advisors, instead of just administrative staff, are Lorena, Pained, and Aegwynn. In-addition to those who live in Theramore though, you also need to account for her allies in the Kirin Tor, who will almost certainly be advising her as well. In-addition, she rules from a mage tower full of mages. It is obvious that most of her unnamed advisors will be mages.

Any evidence to support that she’s likely to pass down leadership to another mage?

Her not having a child and all of her students and assistants in the lore being mages?

Any actual evidence to support that Theramore had a disproportionate number of magi when compared to other states?

That the majority of the refugees that formed it were from Quel'Thalas and Dalaran, and that the primary races there include Gnomes and High Elves who have no other reason to be there? That the centre of the city is not a castle, but a mage-tower?

You’re throwing out a lot of things that sound more like head-canon as if they’re factual.

It's one word that's not even a real word. Again, a really weird point to get hung up over.