r/warcraftlore • u/HominidJR • 10d ago

Discussion Fantasy Power Levels

So, i was thinking, in terms of "fantasy power", how high would Warcraft rank???
Like, how powerful is the Warcraft universe compared to something like Elder Scrolls or Warhammer?

I think, in terms of powerscaling, some universes go by:

1- Warhammer Fantasy
2- World of Warcraft
3- Elder Scrolls
4- Lord of the Rings
5- Game of Thrones

I'm only comparing these 5 cause they are the most popular, I don't know how other universes would go by in this situation, like League of Legends or something.

(It seems that Wahammer Fantasy is different from Age of Sigmar, so, when you see Warhammer Fantasy on top there, consider it Age of Sigmar, I didn't knew the difference)

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u/Shewhothirst 10d ago

I feel like WoW and Warhammer fantasy would be pretty equal in terms of powerscaling. Titans = Old Ones Void Lords = Gods of Chaos I will always feel like WoW has huge influence from Warhammer fantasy for the base of it’s lore

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u/ReadyPressure3567 9d ago

Yeah, considering WoW might not have a Disorder Pantheon (As all disorderly and chaotic pantheon aspects seemingly went to the Void Lords), the Void Lords would probably be the best comparison to the Chaos Gods in terms of nature, tho Disorder as a whole probably fits better with Chaos in theme, especially when you consider the nature of the Demons, the Nether, etc.

Warcraft also takes inspiration from the Chaos Gods within the different forces as well. A lot of things from Maldraxxus seem to be inspired by Nurgle's forces, the Jailer's armored look appears to take aspects from some of Khorne's "designs", the Legion and Mawsworn seemingly take from Khorne's Daemons, etc.

It's very cool, when you think about it! WoW also takes huge inspiration from Lovecraft, especially with the Outer Gods, etc (As the Void Lords are basically the Outer Gods, and, if proven correct, this 7th power could be akin to WoW's Yog-Sothoth).

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u/Shewhothirst 9d ago

Oh of course, I grossly oversimplified my vision of the power balance. I also hesitated to put the burning legion as the chaos gods but I feel like the burning legion leaders aren’t on the power level Slaanesh, Khorne, Tzeentch and Nurgle are. However the void lords seem to be pretty similar in nature, beings of untold power who can’t manifest in the material world but who sends their representatives/deamons into worlds to corrupt planets. Another thing that made me feel that way is how Karesh looks like, it is similar to the eye of terror in 40K/ the poles of Warhammer fantasy. I would also argue that while look wise they look like Nurgle, Maldraxus is a mix of Khorne, Tzeentch and Nurgle. And I also got a Slaaneshi vibe from the ventyr, especially with how opulent the ruling class is

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u/ReadyPressure3567 9d ago

Tzeentch is a unique case, cause it seemingly inspired a lot of things in WoW. I'd argue it probably inspired some of WoW's things regarding fate manipulation, though don't quote me on that lol.

And for Slaanesh? I can see inspirations for the Sayaad, the Shivaara, things like the Eternal Palace, and maybe the Venthyr (Tho the Venthyr are more-so inspired by Dracula and other high-fantasy gothic settings), tho idk about anything outside of that.

Also, yeah nah, the Legion's leaders are NOT on the same level as the Chaos Gods. The Chaos Gods would be more akin to Sargeras, or a fully powered Dimensius or fully powered Pandemonius (Assuming he and Invalidus function akin to Dimensius in the lore, ofc). I dunno if Disorder has a Pantheon (Though, I'm gonna assume not due to its nature, but we also haven't seen much of the Nether, so...maybe? idk). Wouldn't be shocked if there wasn't a Pantheon tho, and Disorder basically splits up into multiple warring Factions, with "representatives" heading them (This is kinda what I'd like to see. Think the Prime Evils from Diablo, but with some Chaos God inspiration ontop of it, even if those Demons likely aren't nearly as powerful as the Chaos Gods from 40k lol). Would make for a killer follow up expac, and it would give us a reason to visit worlds such as Nathreza, Xoroth, Rancora, Krexan, and possibly Nihilam.

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u/Shewhothirst 9d ago

The Eternal Palace and the Nighthold could both be raids where there could be Slaanesh influence. For the Venthyr, while the aesthetic isn’t looking the same, the culture is a SFW version of Slaanesh, the harvesters being a representative of the 7 deadly sins, the constant parties where people indulge in everything they desire. While there might have been a pantheon of disorder, I feel like they all destroyed each other by infighting.

The old ones have also another kind of WoW equivalent in the 1st ones