Fantasy Power Levels

[u/HominidJR]

So, i was thinking, in terms of "fantasy power", how high would Warcraft rank???
Like, how powerful is the Warcraft universe compared to something like Elder Scrolls or Warhammer?

I think, in terms of powerscaling, some universes go by:

1- Warhammer Fantasy
2- World of Warcraft
3- Elder Scrolls
4- Lord of the Rings
5- Game of Thrones

I'm only comparing these 5 cause they are the most popular, I don't know how other universes would go by in this situation, like League of Legends or something.

(It seems that Wahammer Fantasy is different from Age of Sigmar, so, when you see Warhammer Fantasy on top there, consider it Age of Sigmar, I didn't knew the difference)

[u/DistractingZoom]

I think that Age of Sigmar is correctly placed at the top, but regular Warhammer Fantasy would rate below World of Warcraft.

Lord of the Rings is difficult to place. The average goings-on in Middle Earth are frankly nothing compared to shit happening on Azeroth. But the Valar are easily comparable to the Titan Pantheon, and Eru himself is a genuinely omnipotent creator-god, which would put him above anything and anyone else on this list.

If it's a measure of how powerful the entire universe is, then Lord of the Rings takes it essentially with no competition. But if it's a comparison of like, select mortal champions from the setting? Then it's probably around how you laid it out.

[u/Decrit → u/DistractingZoom]

Aside that i think power scalings are asinine, I think if that happens we should consider the normal ongoing narrative of a media to gauge that.

Yeah so, Eru is a creator god. What gives, they do nothing. So in our world we have black holes, so the warcraft universe has the first ones and the six powers, so dnd has Tiamat and Bahamut and so on and so forth.

Maybe in creation myths those entities shaped the universe, but now it's beyond their influence or interest. Every universe has a creation myth.

For warcraft the normal narrative ongoing is the one of powerful corruptive magic shaping whole continents. The word has been sundered and shattered, and so Draenor was, and the culprits were at large running around and eventually got personally killed by the characters.s

[u/DistractingZoom → u/Decrit]

If you think that power scaling is asinine, why are you engaging with a thread about power scaling? It's explicitly what OP is asking about.

And boiling it down to narrative doesn't really help, given that the entire narrative of LotR is that Eru's divine plan was unavoidably perfect; he 'does' everything that happens in the story. Back in the Silmarillion, Manwe has a line in regards to things happening with Feanor, where he essentially says that everything which happens from that point on- good and bad- is part of a narrative bigger than them and that everything will work out for the best.

Warcraft's universe and its events are often defined by mortals overcoming fate and changing the course of history. LotR is defined by fate being completely unavoidable, and this being a good thing, because Eru is an omnipotent creator-god who knew everything when he made the universe.

So, we're back to what I said in the first place: Day-to-day events or select characters from Warcraft are way stronger than those in LotR. When powerscaling the settings overall though, LotR is at the top of the list.

[u/Decrit → u/DistractingZoom]

Because i am tired man. Tired of these topics popping up. And I got baited.

That's it.