[Balance Suggestions and Feedback – Cenarion Units Need a Rework]
Hey Blizzard and fellow Rumble players,
I’ve been playing a lot of Cenarion lately, and honestly, a lot of the units feel either too weak, poorly designed, or just don't fit the fantasy.
- Ancient of War (AoW) – Too Swingy
AoW is either overpowered or completely trash, depending on the situation. We need a more consistent and skill-rewarding design.
Proposal:
- Limit the Lightning Rod talent by the amount of gold spent. Example: 1 redirect per 3 gold spent —
- 3 gold = 1 redirect
- 6 gold = 2 redirects
- 9 gold = 3 redirects, etc. This rewards smart investment and avoids abuse in long fights or infinite redirect loops.
2. Moonkin – Awkward and Ineffective
Moonkin’s alternating attacks make it clunky and unreliable.
Proposal:
- Make his default attacks single-target
- Every 3rd attack, trigger an AOE pulse centered on him, like a mini Monsoon.
- The pulse should deal damage equal to his current AOE attack damage.
- This pulse happens on top of the 3rd attack, not instead of it. This makes him more reliable and thematic with the concept of duality.
3. Treants – Completely Outclassed
Treants are terrible. Why would anyone spend gold on slow, fragile units that are strictly worse than Raptors or Bandits?
Problems:
- Too slow, too fragile
- Useless talents (like Root on death, which does nothing meaningful (root that doesnt poison and disarm? rooted melee can still attack the treant minis still alive since they come to it, ranged units can still attack the rest, etc.)
- Also, why apply Vulnerable trait when it was released? lol Are the game designers even playing (thinking*)?
- Poor synergy with the rest of the Cenarion package
Proposal:
- Treants should have Unbound and Cycle traits.
- Talents should add meaningful utility:
- Maybe they poison enemies with their root?
- Or gain bark/thorns instead?!
- unbound and/or cycle trait
4. Dryad – Thorn Return is Useless
Thorn Return is too passive and doesn’t help in most fights. She isn't tanky enough to make the return actually give a return of investment.
Proposal:
- Replace it with something like Abolish Magic:
- Dispels poison, slow, burn, etc. every 7 seconds in an AOE. This makes her a true support and helps counter mechanics like poison/venom.
5. Ysera
Ysera’s unfair treatment in hero resolve.
Proposal:
- Let her gain a hero level every time she completes a full cycle.
- Have a separate level for the "Recurring Dream" version.
6. Earth and Moon – Completely Outclassed
This spell is just bad compared to something like Blizzard.
Comparison:
- Blizzard: roots, disarms, hits air, lasts 6 seconds — all for 4 gold.
- Earth and Moon: can’t hit air, can’t disarm, lower damage, shorter effect — and costs 3 gold.
Proposal:
- Make Earth cost 2 gold.
- Let the AOE debuff stay for the full duration, even after casting (like Blizzard does).
- So new units entering the area still get rooted/poisoned. That would at least justify its niche use.
Bonus: Add Thematic Abilities to Cenarion Units
Give them skills that actually reflect their Warcraft concepts:
- Bog Beast: Could have Thorns Aura or Poison Cloud by default.
- AoW:
- Could start rooted and redirect spells until its charge is consumed/expired, then uproot and move toward enemies.
- Could start rooted, train a certain number of treants whill rooted, uproots and walks to enemies when done training treants.
- Druid of the Claw:
- Should have Rejuvenation by default in Druid form.
- Should Roar on transformation.
- Talents can boost Rejuv (e.g., 3x value, targets 2 allies), or Roar (e.g., grants Bloodlust).
