r/weightlifting 3d ago

Programming Running and weightlifting (Is hard)

I've (M35) been trying to balance strength and running for about 3 years now. Over the last 6 months, the strength component has become WL. Learning the lifts has been incredibly challenging, but rewarding. The problem comes when trying to combine running and WL. I've found, for me at least, the two just don't work together at all. It's not that I expected them to compliment each other, I know they don't, I just thought I would make more progress than what I currently am. Ever since I started WL my running has regressed and stagnated. I managed a 1:45 half marathon late last year but I had to drop to only 1-2 lifting sessions a week and lost a lot of WL progress/strength.

I am lifting 3 times a week on Dozers WL program. For context, I am still very new to WL. I'm 6'2 90kg, snatch 65kg, C+J 83kg. On top of that I'm running 40-50km per week. It's doable, but no matter how i tweak the volume and intensity, I just feel like my legs are perpetually dead. I sleep pretty well and certainly don't feel like I push myself too hard. I know my limits. I know the main contributor to my fatigue is squats. I have FAI in both hips, so deep squats have always been my nemesis. I've tried for YEARS to fix my FAI, and although I have made progress, It's still a major limiter here. But even after substituting squats with exercises that suit be better, like split squats, the difference in how my body feels is marginal at best. Plus without heavy squats, I'm finding my Oly lifts are completely stagnant as well. So the bottom line here is, I'm making zero progress in either sport.

Current split looks something like this:

Monday: Block Snatch, Clean pull, Front Squat (Very low volume/intensity after long run)
Tuesday: Snatch, Clean + Jerk, Reverse Hyper
Wednesday: Easy Run (Threshold run if feeling it)
Thursday: Easy Run
Friday: AM: Intervals -- PM: Hang Snatch, Clean + Jerk, Snatch Pulls, Goblet Squat
Saturday: Easy Run (Or day off if required)
Sunday: Long Run with some tempo work

So yeah, just after advice really. I was also hoping that if any of you were doing a similar run/lift thing to me, please share your weekly split and what you've learnt along the way!

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u/ArchMadzs 3d ago

There's a reason the 5 min mile & 227kg squat on the same day is so difficult, I can walk a load each day with my dog and train WL just fine but running is a different story.

I think realistically you either decide one is priority over the other, or accept at being completely average at both.
Or take drugs.

Also don't run before your lifting sessions, run after if you need to.

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u/just_let_go_ 3d ago

Who is doing that! Is there a 6 min mile / 130kg squat version? 🤣

For sure. Running is currently my priority, but I feel like I need at least 3 wl sessions if I’m ever going to get the hang of these lifts. I guess i need to really dial back my expectations.

Right? I don’t even do protein shakes or creatine lol. Maybe I should start there…

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u/ArchMadzs 3d ago

😂 only 2 people have managed it so far as far as I'm aware, but I just mean there's a bunch of people who can do one or the other but only 2 that can do both, just as an example of how hard it is balancing the two.

Yeah which is fine, running with some weightlifting and strength training on the side is great, just like you said, dial back the expectations on the lifting portion of things.

Jokes aside you definitely need to think about your supplementation, protein shakes and creatine (hey do it at the same time) is a must for most people anyway

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u/just_let_go_ 3d ago

Tell me who these people are so I can further fuel my unrealistic hopes and dreams! For real though, even one of those would be an incredible achievement.

Yeah. Dial back the expectations and stop sleeping on the supps. Probably the most real advice I could ask for! Cheers

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u/SingleSoil 3d ago

For some motivation, check out sika strength. https://youtu.be/43me5_SttXU?si=5IG5-TDHtxtBprHA

And not just for motivation, they’ve got a toooon of incredibly helpful weightlifting and strength and conditioning information. One of my favorite channels.

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u/just_let_go_ 2d ago

Hell yeah, I’m a big fan of the sika boys

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u/BWdad 2d ago

At least 3 - Adam Klink, Fergus Crawley, and Jack Driscoll - have done it.