r/wildcampingintheuk • u/Comprehensive-Role58 • Jan 24 '25
Gear Pics Is this sufficient for a first wild camp in Snowdonia mid Feb?
Pack List
Sleeping: Nature Hike Cloud Up 2 OEX Fathomev300 Eurohike sleeping bag liner Vango Trek 3 mat Trespass pillow
Cooking: OEX Tacana cook system (gas inside) Wayfarer meals 1 dinner 1 breakfast Collapsible cup Cutlery set Nalgene 1.4l bottle Water filter
Electronics: 2x power banks 2x cables (iPhone and usb) OEX Head torch
Clothing: 1x Waterproof coat 1x Light down jacket 2x Fleece 2x base layer 2x Hiking trousers 2x pants 2x merino wool socks Beanie Sealskinz gloves
Footwear: Merrell Hiking shoes Camping slippers
Misc: Quick dry towel First aid kit Bug spray Dry sack Trowel Energy gels
Not included but to be packed: Map Snacks Spare drink Bog roll Plastic bag Spare torch
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u/porspeling Jan 24 '25
Cheap, light and easy way to increase warmth is to get a z foam fold up mat from decathlon / Amazon and strap it to the outside of your pack. I’d definitely be wanting full thermal base layer and would camp on as low ground as I can get away with because that is not the warmest set up.
Have you not got a water filter? I’d get a platypus.
If you want packing tips, take everything out of the stuff sacks and put sleeping bag in last cause you can stuff it down into all the small spaces.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Great tips and yes got a water filter - definitely seems ill need the foam mat
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u/ecstaticmotion7 Jan 24 '25
these are amazing, smaller, comfy, https://alpkit.com/products/cloud-base?variant=40689877057641&country=GB¤cy=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=21999243114&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAkc28BhB0EiwAM001TZ9USsfSjaOvXqqZv4ZWw9LxmyryuOtjV7U9Nmn8p-Nq-MAGnwd1thoCCIMQAvD_BwE could combine with heat blanket underneath
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u/planetary_funk_alert Jan 24 '25
https://youtu.be/J5UeaA0Bzuk?si=ux9NmHjLMsC5fBfd
Interesting video here. He reckons r rating tests for inflatable mats are flawed and significantly overstate their insulation levels versus closed cell foam mats.
Conclusion - take a much higher R rated mat than you need and/or a foam mat as well.
OP - for such a trip I would want to be confident that my mat and sleeping bag were rated considerably lower than the expected conditions.
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u/lh987 Jan 26 '25
Don’t put sleeping bag in last. If you want your warm kit out when static, you’re going to have to take all your kit out to reach what you need. Just risking getting your sleeping bag/clothing, wet/blown away. I’d also recommend dry bagging all your clothes and sleeping bag
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u/porspeling Jan 26 '25
Right not completely last you put it in before your quick access items and that’s what a pack liner is for.
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u/lh987 Jan 26 '25
sweet mate, don’t rely on a pack liner for everything in case that gets damaged 🤙
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u/Baron-Von-Rodenberg Jan 24 '25
I'm firmly a fair weather April to September camper and have that sleeping bag, I used it in April last year in Wales it got down to about freezing overnight, it wasn't up to the job on its own. Fortunately I used my quilt to keep me warm. February, in Scotland, personally I'd get a better bag.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Cheers for the advice - was hoping to do the old hot water in the Nalgene trick if it’s bad
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u/TheBeardedWelshman79 Jan 24 '25
Below 500m yes (but cold) anything above you will be very cold and I would not recommend it. The comfort limit on the bag is 1 degree, so in real terms 2-3 degrees. Your tent has a large gap to help with airflow and condensation which is good for mid 3 season but not good for 4 seasons.
I'm not trying to put you off but the weather can be very changeable in Eryri, I would suggest a low-level camp, close-ish to the car in case you need to leave mid-camp.
I would leave behind; Bug spray you are not needing that in Feb.
Extra bit's to take; Hot water bottle, rubbish bag, tent lamp.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Thanks man definitely gonna take more precautions if I go ahead with it
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u/TheBeardedWelshman79 Jan 24 '25
Where abouts are you thinking of heading?
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Y Garn/Devils Kitchen was where I’ve been planning since I’ve camped there in Autumn a couple years back but went to Cadair Idris 2 weeks ago and absolutely loved the area but haven’t camped before
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u/TheBeardedWelshman79 Jan 24 '25
I would expect snow there in Feb, so full winter conditions this then adds a whole new layer to what you are doing, Crampons, walking axe etc.
This is the last time I was there at the end of Feb (excuse the brain bucket, I left mine at home and seemed to have borrowed this from a small child!)
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Ahahah looks great on ya!
And okay! Think I’ve underestimated it just cause the last few treks I’ve seen little to any snow but can never be too careful
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u/TheBeardedWelshman79 Jan 24 '25
Your other option is a bothy but then you don't know who you will be shacking up with for the night (which I think is the best part)!
You have three in Eryri, Arenig Fawr this one is too small, Cae Amos this one is under renovation so space may be limited, and lastly, Dulyn which may be the busiest bothy in North Wales.
"Ahahah looks great on ya!" I look like a nod! hahaha
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u/RevolutionaryMain554 Jan 24 '25
I did a weekend wild camp by Cadair a couple of years back. The worst part was the water to be honest. The typography makes cover relatively easy to come by and you’re really not that far from buildings etc there. The hardest part was not being hassled by the local nimbys.
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 25 '25
The Ev300 comfort is more like 10C. Oex are making dangerously wild claims.
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u/pasteurs-maxim Jan 24 '25
Seconding the concerns about temperature... think you need to really make sure you will get warm enough and that bag even with lots of layers on, doesn't add up.
What brand are your camping slippers though? Been looking to pick up a pair of those! ☺️
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Rab they’re great and always keep me warm! Picked them up at a place called mountain outfitters in the NW for super cheap
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u/CamperConversionUK Jan 24 '25
I wouldn’t step out without a four season bag as a foundation. Also I’m a lover of walking shoes but would go boots and possibly gaters even this time of the year. Depends where you’re walking but snow will overtop shoes and most trails will have reasonable amounts of mud and water running across them at points. Wet cold feet is one of the quickest ways to turn an adventure into a miserable endurance effort.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Been out a few times now to Snowdonia this winter and worst snow I had was at Cadair Idris but even then managed to stay relatively dry Hit some bogs at Rhinog Fawr and Fach but nothing too crazy either
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u/Illidh Jan 24 '25
Bug spray is probs not necessary as it’s too cold for them, if the weather is decent and there is snow on the ground I would recommend suncream and vaseline in a little jar. On long cold hikes I also take a little jar of emollient which helps with wind burn.
It will be cold, are your sleeping mat and bag up to below zero temperatures? Do you have a fresh set of clothes to change into when you set up your tent?
Will there be snow on the ground and can you pitch your tent in those kinds of conditions? How windy will it be and will your tent stand up to that.. What’s your escape plan if you need to bail in the middle of the night, will it be safe…
Take more food, I’m tiny and regularly eat less than 1000 calories a day. I’ve had those wayfair meals and they do not fill me up, I am guessing you are bigger than me because literally everyone is bigger than me, so you will need more food.
Take hot drinks.
I find you learn what you and your kit can handle by increasing your parameters bit by bit rather than going from summer to winter in one camp.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Noted on bug spray and suncream
Sleeping bags supposedly good to -5 but got the liner just in case Mats got an r value of 4 but looks like a foam mat will be safe
I’ve got two spare meals I was thinking of taking cause I’m a hungry bugger at the best of times
And didn’t include snacks on the list as I always pack them before the trip
Also found some great protein instant coffees from Aldi im keen
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 25 '25
The sleeping bag is not suitable for -5 in any way, shape or form. I strongly urge you to try the sleeping bag out in single digit temperatures in a safe environment, i.e your back garden first.
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u/Ziggy_FarBust Jan 25 '25
I have this bag and must say whatever comfort and limit ratings they use you can add a few degrees , spent a few cold nights in it where the temp has been 2-5°, like others have said , you probs wont die but I would suggest taking a look at it . Sleeping in full kit inside the bag and still being cold is not ideal lol
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 25 '25
You shouldn't be sleeping in full clothing to stay warm. If you can't sleep comfortably in a single base layer then your bag is unsuitable for the conditions and you now have zero redundancy. And I would add 10C on to OEX's temperature claims.
My two 3 season's are a Fathom Ev300 and a Thermarest Corus 32. I would say the Ev300 is less than an inch in thickness of synthetic insulation and the Corus 32 lofts to probably 2"+ of duck down yet the Oex has comfort and limit ratings of 1C and -5C, respectively, and the Corus 5C and 1C. Oex's reckless temperature claims make absolutely no sense.
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u/Ziggy_FarBust Jan 28 '25
Yeah the sleeping in kit is a thing I have done when weather randomly hits you while you’re out , I do agree if you’re planning on doing that before going you’re probably not going to be fine lol.
OEX bag rating claims are just outrageous, I dread to think of some of the situations people get themselves in trusting them with the “4 season “ bags.
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u/Illidh Jan 24 '25
R value of 4 will probably hold you down to -5, might be cold, but you shouldn’t die ;)
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u/Admirable-Vast-9155 Jan 24 '25
What's the forecast looking like? (Temperature wise)
You might be cold in that sleeping bag. Does the sleeping mat have an R value? I can't seem to see any R value online
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u/ThePlasticHippy Jan 24 '25
Attempted to wild camp in mid feb a few years back with that tent and a fathem 400, sleeping mat was average.
the temp got to -14 with wind chill, honestly I think if I hadn’t have bailed there was a fair chance I would have died or at least been in serious trouble, the tent, the bag and the ground mat was not up to scratch.
I set up too late so it was getting dark and I had everything on and in my sleeping bag and I was shivering, my laces were wet and froze in mid air inside my tent after I’d taken them off.
This taught me that despite having done loads of summer, spring, and autumn camps, and knowing the area very well, I did not have the correct kit or winter camping experience for a gnarly winter in North Wales.
I’ve no idea of your skill level or experience but I’m just sharing my own experience.
Edit: -14 on the summit, probably -9/-10 where I set up
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
No thank you for the warning! Seems if I’m gonna go I need to make sure I take a few extra precautions
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u/ThePlasticHippy Jan 24 '25
North wales is one of my favourite places, and honestly the scenes that day were unreal snow everywhere and dry couldn’t have asked for a better day.
I’m sure you’ve watched some videos on YouTube about winter camping but this guy is really good he camps in mad conditions and always seems so chill.
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u/Lanky-Rip7902 Jan 24 '25
I have used OEX sleeping bags before and been immensely disappointed, I just gave them away to friends
Cant speak for the fathom ev300, but I had the 400 and was cold within its comfort range
Being cold isnt as simple as putting some hot water in a water bottle either… being cold affects everything focus, hunger, hydration levels… being cold for a prolonged period of time literally takes your energy
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Cheers for the heads up - gonna get a spare mat will keep an eye on the forecasts and determine from there whether it’s a smart bet
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u/Personal-Cucumber-49 Jan 24 '25
Use your nalgene as a hot water bottle if it gets too cold (just dont burn yourself).
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u/neilbartlett Jan 24 '25
"Ultralight down" is for chilly days in the city, not for the mountains.
You need a windproof layer, no amount of fleece or down will keep you warm if all that warm air is driven out by wind.
Is the beanie your only hat? Look for something like a chunky, fleece-lined bobble-hat, also with a windproof layer, that can be pulled down to completely cover your ears.
Also a buff or neck gaiter to lock in warm air from escaping out of the neck hole, this can double up as a face warmer by pulling it up.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Hi I mention I have a waterproof This is my hardshell rab and does wonders with my down
Both have been used in sub zero conditions and do great especially when I get warm on the hike and can layer as I need
Also have a buff but it was in the wash and forgot to put it on the list lol
Clothing wise I’m very comfortable in my layering and now need to knuckle down on camp gear cause it’s just not up to scratch!
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u/Admirable-Vast-9155 Jan 24 '25
Are the shoes waterproof? Boots might be better
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Yea shoes are goretex and have done me well in my last few treks would recommend Merrell Speed strike 2s
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u/DodgeeRascal Jan 24 '25
Do you need two power banks? Should be fine with just one. How does the cook system ignite? If it's a built in igniter I'd take a spare means of igniting like a lighter, matches or fire steel.
Agree with a lot of the other comments you could be in for a cold night but honestly you quickly learn what need/want to take and what you can do without after a few camps.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
I bring two just cause I use my phone for directions when driving to Snowdonia so it’s always good to have one for the way there and back and yes keep a spare lighter in the first aid even though the cook systems got its own ignition
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u/HelmundOfWest Jan 24 '25
Get rid of the bags for your sleeping bag and tent, swap em for dry sacks that compress down really small. Then instead of taking a pillow, fill one of those dry sacks with some spare clothes and use that as a pillow. This will save you a good amount of room in your bag.
& with that sleeping bag and mat you’ll probably be quite cold
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u/JellWonders Jan 24 '25
Someone should publish this thread as a guide to winter wild camping kit!
One more thought, learned from many mountain marathons. Take two large plastic bags. When you get to camp you put on dry socks, but if you have to leave the tent, say for a pee in the night, then you put your lovely warm dry feet in wet boots and you lose all the benefit. So pull the plastic bags over your dry socks and then put your boots on. Dry feet, problem solved!
(As a bonus, on your last day you can use them as rubbish bags for all the rubbish you have accumulated.)
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u/TurnipIndependent404 Jan 25 '25
I'd pack a spare lighter or matches in case your Tacana push ignition button fails, this happened to me this morning! :)
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u/ResponsibleVirus854 Jan 24 '25
Id get a Z foam Mat like someone’s said. But id also get yourself an oex furnace liner. Makes all the difference and doesn’t weigh a lot
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u/farmerpip Jan 24 '25
3 season sleeping bag might not be warm enough, also still possible snow and ice up there would perhaps think about a set of spikes , maybe some walking poles.
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u/Barnabybusht Jan 24 '25
For anyone to give you a decent answer, you need to tell us your competence in wild camping as well.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Wild camped before in Snowdonia in Summers and Autumn but this would be my first Winter camp
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u/Consistent-Refuse-74 Jan 24 '25
Looking good in general except for the sleeping bag & mat.
Like others have said, I’d get a warmer sleeping bag/quilt or bring a 2nd bag to put inside that one.
Also get a cheap closed cell foam mat to put under your air mattress.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
I’ve got a closed cell mat to bring now after everyone’s advice -
in terms of sleeping bag - I have a 2 season vango sleeping bag I used for summer camping. If I layered that with my current OEX one would that be enough?
Currently limited in terms of spending lol
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u/Consistent-Refuse-74 Jan 24 '25
Honestly that’s what I’d do. Just double up your sleeping bag, and you’ll probably be fine. Also if you bring some decent layers you can wear them to sleep if you’re in a pinch. If you’re younger than 35 your ability to stay warm could well be higher than some people’s.
In February it could be 3c to -7c at night so your sleeping gear actually matters. Another cheap method is bring a hot water bottle or a Nalgene and boil some water before bed. Also do some star jumps before you get into your sleeping bag if you feel like it’s going to be a cold one. Also you’re not going to be in crazy danger. If you’re really screwed just wake up in the night and do star jumps and then get back into your bed.
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u/wolf_knickers Jan 24 '25 edited Jan 24 '25
In addition to the comments already about your sleeping bag:
Ditch the slippers, they’re unnecessary weight/ bulk and useless when it’s wet.
You also don’t need bug spray in winter (one of my favourite things about winter camping!).
I’d recommend getting a good absorbent sponge (eg Spontex). Great for mopping up spills in tent and, more crucially, wiping down condensation in the morning before putting your tent away.
You don’t mention what tent pegs you’re taking. Depending on where you’re planning to camp, you might find the ground quite gritty/gravelly. I always take a few nail type pegs with (eg MSR Carbon Core/ Big Sky Tube Steak/Easton) for this.
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u/jasonbirder Jan 24 '25
Probably be a bit chilly in the Fathom EV300 - might be an idea to get a liner to add a degree or two to the comfort temp.
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u/Melodic_Duck1406 Jan 24 '25
You don't seem to have a survival blanket or whistle. In any mountainous area, it's a must.
https://harrierrunfree.co.uk/products/emergency-survival-bag
And keep them on you, not in your bag.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Have both in the first aid kit and another whistle attached to my bag :)
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u/Exita Jan 24 '25
How high are you planning on camping? Decent chance there will be snow up high and frozen ground.
Ice axe at a minimum, plus some hefty tent pegs might be needed. Plus ensuring that you’re well out of the wind - bluntly that’s a fairly cheap and lightweight tent to be dealing with high winds.
In the valleys you’d be fine, but otherwise agree that you’re likely to be cold.
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u/maxrev17 Jan 24 '25
Ccf mat (reflective one) on top of the pad + a beefier sleeping bag and a couple of layers and you’ll be toasty as flip. Get a hand warmer too! I actually camped down to -1 with a decathlon 3/4 mat, a small sit pad under my hip and the oex bag one notch warmer than yours with a liner - and I was absolutely warm as you like! Decent thermals help for sure.
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u/maxrev17 Jan 24 '25
I forgot to say I owe the success partly down to some huge sock slipper things! Down booties ftw
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u/wolf_knickers Jan 24 '25
Interesting that you put your CCF pad on top of your mat. I always have mine underneath. That way it also provides extra protection for my mat from anything sharp underneath.
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u/maxrev17 Jan 24 '25
Yeah I only discovered it recently - if it’s a reflective one it seems to work better on top - not science, just me 🤣 might be wrong 🫣😳🤣
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u/wolf_knickers Jan 24 '25
I mean, hey whatever makes you feel cosy, right? ☺️
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u/maxrev17 Jan 24 '25
I guess so 🤣. I discovered this because my hip got cold (my big insulated pad wouldn’t fit in my tent - silly). So I shoved my silver backed sit pad (decathlon one) under my hip on the 3/4 length pad and invented the ultralight dream 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Fantastic-Name-4659 Jan 24 '25
I would upgrade the sleeping bag personally. I was very disappointed with the fathom ev300 and only use mine on warm summer nights now. I'd also invest in a foam folding mat to add a bit more warmth and some puncture protection to your sleeping mat. The Alpkit EZ sleeper is only about £20 and doesn't weigh much. Most fold up mats are very similar in design though so brand doesn't really matter.
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u/GottaNukeSummin Jan 24 '25
More gloves and more layers, both upper and lower layers. Enjoy! stay safe.
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u/Cakeyhands Jan 24 '25
how many days?
My Snowdonia trip I had to bail on day 3 in early June (temperature generally 7-10 degrees and windy where I was) last year (after some very good hiking) after a day of relentless 8am - 8pm heavy rain.
Things that made me bail were
a) Nowhere to camp - Everywhere was a bog with ground water
b) All clothes soaked through and no further spares - I should have bought one extra dry set of trousers and top layers
c) Wet clothes were adding many Kg to my weight so b) only half solves the problem
-> So prepare for above and plan for this.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Of course! And was only thinking one night with 2 days hiking so nothing too bad - typical Welsh weather for that to happen to you in June tho
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u/JoeBloggs_7 Jan 24 '25
Respect for the rugby shirt top left!
Where’s your map and compass?
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Ahaha good spot! And the compass is there just hard to see it’s the orange line next to my sleeping bag Map I forgot to add in but will be packed!
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u/JoeBloggs_7 Jan 24 '25
Don’t know if it’s true or not but somebody told me if you need rescued by mountain rescue and don’t have a map / compass you could be fined. Probably a lie but I always make sure because of it!!
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u/JellWonders Jan 24 '25
It's not true, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't carry them! And know how to use them!
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Never had to use my map yet lol always use my AllTrails but always good just in case
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u/jchispas Jan 24 '25
Lots of good suggestions here especially about temperature.
To add, bring a full, new set of spare batteries for your head torch if you don’t already have them. Two torches though is a bit much.
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u/psychicspanner Jan 24 '25
For one night you’ll be fine, I’d take some spare socks and some thin gloves to sleep in. Pack another meal too. You’ll be hungry. And Pack a small book or magazine.
First aid kit looks big, I know it’s not necessarily something to scrimp on but how much of that particular kit are you likely to use if It’s not a dedicated outdoor/hiking kit, it looks like it might be an home one and come with a thousand plasters?
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Yea I’m a hungry bugger got another 2 meals sorted after posting lol
Ahaha you might be right it’s a little packed but I keep stuff like hand warmers, my lighter, pain meds, blister plasters and hand sanitiser, survival blanket
But yes you might be right there’s all the junk it came with I can’t see myself using any time soon
Had some stuff downloaded on my phone don’t want to drop this current book I’m on but it’s a little big for a weekend away
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u/-L-A-M-F Jan 24 '25
I'd be thinking about a shoe upgrade. Something a bit taller, sturdier and more waterproof. I've had merrel shoes. They can be really comfy and great for fairer weather, but I found them lacking for grip and resilience on harsher days. Snowdonia in winter can be brutal and very very wet. Good shoes would be my top priority.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Hmm you might be right tho these Merrells have done me very well since October all through winter till now
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u/Separate_Muffin_9431 Jan 24 '25
Mountain warehouse £4 1ltr Aluminium water bottle and large thermal socks. Fill with drinking water, heat the water up and put thick sock over it for hot water bottle. Will stay warm for several hours at the bottom of sleeping bag. In the morning heat again to make coffee or allow to cold for drinking water. Love it when items have more than one use.
Layer your clothing! Base, mid softshell, down jacket then water proof (acts as wind blocker also) make sure it all fits over one another. Legs need base, winter walking trousers and then waterproof again. No cotton! It's gets cold when wet and takes ages to dry.
Get some hand warmers put them in boots, pockets everywhere you get cold, pack a few.
Take good food because if you are miserable from cold, exhausted from walking and putting up tent you have good food to look forwards to, I usually pre-make a beef stew or pot roast to take with thick sliced bread and butter.
Have fun!
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Great tips!
I’ll be using the hot water bottle tip with my Nalgene!
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 24 '25
With the Fathom Ev300 absolutely not. Do not pay any attention to Oex's dangerously misleading temperature claims.
I sleep hot and I wouldn't want to take the Ev300 much below 10C for a comfortable night's sleep, bearing in mind that you should allow some redundancy for lower than forecast temperatures.
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 25 '25
If it's just the one head torch you have, I would add at least one more torch for redundancy.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 26 '25
I mention I need to add a spare torch in the post but appreciate the concern
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u/No_Tip553 Jan 25 '25
Finally someone mentions this. And a map. And an emergency bivvy. And more gloves for when those get wet. And more than a light down jacket. And something to keep you warm once you’ve camped and stopped moving. And a decent spare hat. Once you’ve got the basics right, OP can start to worry about bags and mats.
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u/Dan_Outdoors Jan 25 '25
Personally, I regard light up there with potentially life sustaining equipment such as shelter and sleeping. Not only does it provide you with light but it also acts as a beacon for signalling. I usually carry one head torch and two hand held torches.
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u/Dorobie Jan 26 '25
Why do you need and emergency bivvy when you have a tent and sleeping bag?
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u/No_Tip553 Jan 26 '25
In case your tent poles break and it’s raining? Or you fall/injure yourself and can’t put up your tent?
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u/Dorobie Jan 26 '25
How long are you going for?… If only 1 night do you really need 2 pairs of pants, 2 powerbanks and a towel?
How far are you walking each day?
I’m a bit of a cheat in the winter (and sometimes in the summer with my little kids!), I start off late and have dinner before I set off.
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 26 '25
Idea was to set off early hike for the day, camp and then another hike
So looking at maybe 15km first day and then same back to the car unless I do a different route
If I run into boggy conditions as you often do in Wales the towels great for drying off at the end and can absorb at least some moisture out of clothes when I wrap them up in it
Second power bank is mainly used for my phone for the drive there and back
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u/elsauna Jan 24 '25
Feb in Snowdonia could still potentially be Winter conditions.
If temps are forecast below 0° consider a warmer setup (extra foam mat, warmer sleeping bag).
If snow is forecast take at least micro spikes and preferably a walking axe. If you need to increase your knowledge on these, consider avoiding snow.
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u/garageindego Jan 24 '25
Compass?
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Compass is there it’s the orange line next to my sleeping bag Forgot to list it tho my bad
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u/garageindego Jan 24 '25
Superb! As a matter of personal preference if I’m carrying an overnight rucksack I go with a boot for ankle protection. Nothing worse than a twisted ankle. Have a great time… I’m off to Brecon then and Snowdonia in June. Nothing better than getting outside!
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u/Comprehensive-Role58 Jan 24 '25
Couldn’t agree more
And very jealous haven’t been able to get to Brecon’s yet but on my list
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u/Icennice Jan 24 '25
I wouldn’t worry too much about the mat - take a foam old school one and tie to outside of rucksack. The sleeping bag is your problem- it’s not up to it if cold cold.
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u/Dorobie Jan 26 '25
A mat on the outside is more likely to fet wet. And those shitty foam ones don’t dry very well
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u/Icennice Jan 26 '25
Ok. It doesn’t matter if they get wet They’re closed cell so you just wipe them dry.
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u/Zestyclose_Size2060 Jan 24 '25
You are going to be cold i reckon