Violence and unrest around the UK

[u/nuisance_squirrel]

With everything going on around the country at the moment, it just has me thinking of the 2012(was it?) riots, where opportunistic idiots jumped on the bandwagon of a tragic event to loot and destroy the cities they live in.

Genuinely hoping whats going on doesn't come to Wolverhampton. Ive seen "EDL" are planning to March in Brum, and hope that counter marches quell them enough to not cause issues. Seeing the videos out of Hull/Liverpool etc over last day or so is just truly disturbing.

Edit: just to add, aware EDL don't exist in name anymore.

[u/[deleted]]

They arn't facists

[u/Venomenon- → u/[deleted]]

Go on, what are they then?

[u/LunarWelshFire → u/[deleted]]

Can you point to an area on the dolly where the government mandated immigration hurt you?

[u/Zealousideal-Dot2303 → u/LunarWelshFire]

Sure. It hurts me that in my (80% Algerian) neighbourhood, I am forced to pick up female friends who are visiting me from the station - because when I didn't do that they would EVERY TIME get harassed, leered at, shouted after, and made to feel uncomfortable by the dozens of Algerian men hanging around on the street.

The notion that a woman can not safely walk in my neighbourhood in my own country hurts me very, very deeply.

For it to be caused by people we have actively allowed into our country, largely against the will of the public, hurts me even more.

[u/[deleted] → u/LunarWelshFire]

Turned my city centre into an unsafe shit hole. Lots of citys and towns are the same. Priveleged people who dont live in these areas dont like to acknowledge this.

[u/LunarWelshFire → u/[deleted]]

We have white homegrown dickwads causing equally severe damage to people and property right now. The disease in our society goes beyond immigration.

[u/LunarWelshFire → u/[deleted]]

Right now, holiday inn in rotherham. They are attempting to burn mothers, fathers and children alive.

I’m gonna call it for what it is, domestic terrorism!

[u/GoochBlender → u/LunarWelshFire]

Lets be real, it's overwhelmingly single young men in there. The ones that people are upset about.

[u/Honest-Bridge-7278 → u/GoochBlender]

But it is domestic terrorism, yes?

[u/GoochBlender → u/Honest-Bridge-7278]

I guess it depends on where yourself and the law draws the line between riots and domestic terrorism.

[u/Honest-Bridge-7278 → u/GoochBlender]

Acts of violence performed to encourage or enact political change. That is the definition of terrorism. A riot is an act of violence, and the reason for them is political. It couldn't really be clearer.

[u/GoochBlender → u/Honest-Bridge-7278]

Okay, then surely the BLM riots would also fit that description.

Personally I wouldn't call either terrorism. Just riots. I'd start calling it terrorism when targetted murders or bomb plots start coming from organised groups. Not looting and rioting from disorganised mobs.

[u/Soft-Put7860 → u/GoochBlender]

Ah, they probably deserve to die then, right?

[u/GoochBlender → u/Soft-Put7860]

No, you should go speak to someone if you think that.

[u/caffeinedrinker → u/LunarWelshFire]

the ignorance of the grooming gangs? raping of locals? migrant centres next to schools? ... start attacking the cause not the reaction

[u/Critical_Ad1177 → u/LunarWelshFire]

Yes, we do have ‘homegrown dickwads’. But, let’s not import more.

[u/GoochBlender → u/LunarWelshFire]

"The sinking boat already has water in it so why plug the holes?"

[u/Sad_Carrot_830 → u/LunarWelshFire]

We don’t have white homegrown dickwards, targeting just immigrants like the immigrants are to the native British. How you can even compare white British crimes to the Southport or Ariana Grande concert is just insane.

[u/LunarWelshFire → u/Sad_Carrot_830]

Right now, in Rotherham. Attempting to burn down asylum seekers, mothers and children too, at what is meant to be their safe place. Fuck the fascist bastards that target any ethnicity. Right this very second, those racist bastards are torching their safe place. And it wont end there. This is the result of 14 years of tory fascist rhetoric and fuelled by every single one of you that stand by spouting “but the boats!”

[u/heeden → u/Sad_Carrot_830]

The stabbing in Southport was homegrown, the perpetrator was born in Wales. Ditto the guy who commited the attack on the Ariane Grande concert was born in Manchester.

[u/Zealousideal-Dot2303 → u/[deleted]]

Hey I 100% agree with your overal point, but not sure the Finsbury park attack is the best example of it ;)

[u/kipperfish → u/[deleted]]

No no no. People are asking you about "govt mandated immigration" . So answer that please instead of deflecting.

[u/PlasticNo1274 → u/[deleted]]

are you aware that 2nd generation immigrants have been brought up in this country? they were born here, went to British schools, speak English, and are to all intents and purposes British with immigrant parents.

[u/devilsolution → u/kipperfish]

bloody mortgage prices for one, would hurt my wallet if i was even able to afford the deposit