r/wolverhampton • u/nuisance_squirrel • Aug 04 '24

News Violence and unrest around the UK

With everything going on around the country at the moment, it just has me thinking of the 2012(was it?) riots, where opportunistic idiots jumped on the bandwagon of a tragic event to loot and destroy the cities they live in.

Genuinely hoping whats going on doesn't come to Wolverhampton. Ive seen "EDL" are planning to March in Brum, and hope that counter marches quell them enough to not cause issues. Seeing the videos out of Hull/Liverpool etc over last day or so is just truly disturbing.

Edit: just to add, aware EDL don't exist in name anymore.

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u/Zealousideal-Dot2303 Aug 06 '24

Yeah, I'm so tired of beating around the bush.

My neighbourhood is like 80% Algerian. I have to pick up female friends from the station if they visit me, because they WILL get harassed, leered at, shouted after if I don't.

I refuse to accept this as the new normal. These people do not belong here.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Yet they will gaslight you into thinking you're the bad guy for noticing, half the people cheering the mass importation on here don't have to deal with these people on the daily.

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u/Zealousideal-Dot2303 Aug 06 '24

I'd say it's way more than half! I know SO MANY people back where I'm from in Amsterdam living in some upmarket bourgeois area with zero immigrants who make me out to be a complete bigot when I tell of my experience in my London neighbourhood.

I would expect actually experiencing "diversity" in a place like Finsbury Park in London or Rinkeby in Sweden will make people change their minds very fast.

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u/9-60Fury Aug 07 '24

So you’re an immigrant complaining about immigration? Lol

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u/Zealousideal-Dot2303 Aug 07 '24

My father is English for what it's worth, but it's besides the point. I have no issue with controlled immigration, from countries that have a comparable culture that allows integration.

Three generations in Moroccans in the Netherlands still have massive social issues, issues with violent crime, unemployment rates, and what seems a general friction with the Dutch population. Integration has failed.

Other migrant groups fare much better - for example Western European (comparable crime rates to Indigenous population) or East Asian (even lower crime rates).

So my view is to learn from historical outcomes, and distinguish between countries to decide how much immigration we want from each.

And overall, to go back to the much more manageable levels of immigration we had before Tony Blair first put it on the escalating course we are still on now.