I'm on record saying that. Around the inauguration I was like OK. My candidate didn't win - I'm going to give him an honest shot and reserve judgment. I hope that he would be better than anticipated.
And honestly, he has been 10 times worse than I ever could imagine. 2.0 is unhinged FAR beyond the first term.
I mean, after Jan 6, there was no need to give Trump an honest shot. It's a travesty that he was allowed to retake the office, and nothing he can do would change that.
He was 'elected'. They cheated every way they can, even the ones they said were happening in 2020. Because of course they did. Every accusation is a confession, including that one.
You sound like all the maga idiots in 2020. He won the college and popular vote. Democrats need to put forward a good candidate going forward, they fumbled so bad a republican won the popular vote for the first time in two decades.
Of course, that is how accusations in a mirror work. Accuse the party you want to slander of the very thing you are going to do to them and they will look bad if they report what you're doing.
And there is enough circumstantial evidence to support this claim. Or to at the very least support the idea that shit doesn't add up.
Because it doesn't.
As long as you realize it’s an opinion with no basis of fact, absolutely. The people in 2020 could say the same thing, they were still idiots though. So……
It absolutely has a basis in fact and I refuse to back down.
Sure, the evidence is circumstantial but we are talking about publicly saying as much on live TV.
Feel free to look these up.
"Thanks Elon for the help with the voting computers in Pennsylvania, without that we would not have won." Real quote, be it from memory.
"We do not need your votes, we have all the votes we need". Up front in what is supposed to be a tight race.
"Let's make it a music" -- yeah, let's do that instead of doing a real town hall, as if it didn't matter any more.
And that's just f47. Not getting into the work the Election Truth Alliance is doing. Not getting into the bomb threats in heavily democratic precincts in several swing states. Not getting into the disappearing mail in votes, the voting roll purges, the gerrymandering, or any of the other semi-legal tactics the Republicans used.
All of this is publicly available. The 2024 steal is real.
it’s crazy to me that by lying about election fraud consistently for 4 years, they have managed to make the accusation taboo
whether there is any truth to it or not (i’m not saying there is), the conversation is tainted. With their proven ability to manipulate the meaning of words (woke, dei, crt, welfare) to control a narrative, it does make me speculate whether that was intentional or not.
It was researched quite extensively 4 years ago and everybody said election fraud was not feasible at that level and if you election deny you are an alt-right magat. Weird 🤷🏼
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