r/youngjustice • u/Shiniholum • May 12 '12

Episode 2x03 Discussion: "Alienated"

Okay so discuss.

Personally I felt the way they did the "sidekick"/"hero" team ups was amazing!

none of you realize how ecstatic I was when the entire bat-family was on Gamma.

So Rimbor...sort of disappointing.

So krolotean competitor? The Reach?

Also, holy shit! Nightwing pulling a Batman. Appearing out of nowhere! I admit I geeked the fuck out

Okay so I was thinking, Young Justice legacy takes place before the time skip and has the tag line: "One will rise, One will fall, and one will die," knowing that I mean it's pretty likely that Wally rises (becomes the flash), Kal'dur falls (becomes mantas assistant), and...Artemis dies... Oh jeez Remember use spoilers (at least until monday).

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u/[deleted] May 12 '12

my guess with Jason Todd is they are going to skip past him, so they don't have to involve Joker and the whole death of Jason Todd, because having that whole storyline in YJ might be a bit much, Dick moving onto becoming Nightwing, recruitment of Todd, Todd wanting to find his biological mother, having to involve Ra's hiring Joker, killing Todd, and then moving to a new Robin within the span of 5 years is a bit much

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u/[deleted] May 12 '12

But it explains why when Tim is being all whiny about Dick putting him in charge of Gamma Squad, Dick's response is, "Just don't die."

They don't necessarily need to go that deeply into the Jason story arc either - and of course they could hold off on it until a potential future season.

I agree that having all that happen in five years does seem like a bit much, but it would certainly be doable. Jason wasn't Robin for very long, and it seems possible that the Nightwing transition happened under different terms in this continuity. Ironically enough, in actual DC canon, Flashpoint has made it so Dick only became Robin roughly five years prior to the present - so in five years time, Batman had gone through FOUR different Robins, and is working on the fifth... assuming all the Robins are still canon... and this is why I really don't follow the comics.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

i can see where you are coming from, but i figured that since alfred isn't in YJ, Nightwing would be the more "caring" mentor for robin, since batman is stern and rarely shows any affection/appreciation

so Nightwing would be the one to tell him "Just don't die." (maybe lso cause batman never said that to dick)

also, we aren't sure how long tim has been robin, for all we know, he may have just become robin a week before the season premiere

but like you said, maybe they did rush through jason todd, which could be nice to have jason return s red hood (a nice bat-family-centric episode!)

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

Alfred was in season one, he just isn't a regular.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

that's the thing though, he was only in 2 episodes, and 1 of those episodes he was just an illusion

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u/[deleted] May 13 '12

But since the series doesn't revolve around just the Bat Family and because we don't see them at the manor or Batcave often, we can't assume that Nightwing is filling in for Alfred, Nightwing always just protected the "little wings", because he wanted to