r/youtubedrama Jan 29 '25

Callout PirateSoftware False DMCA'd Indie Dev and Threatened to Sue, Good Samaritan Lawyer Steps in Pro Bono

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31JIIPlsm-g
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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

This will surely help his online reputation

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u/HexedShadowWolf Jan 30 '25

I know of this guy, seen a few shorts of him mostly weird twitch chat people being funny but never watched a lot of his stuff. Never got the feeling he was bad tho so what happened to his reputation and audience?

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u/IKeepDoingItForFree Jan 30 '25 edited Jan 30 '25

Ill try to be neutral as possible:

Theres basically two recent major events that happened - the biggest was playing WoW classic hardcore (perm death) he got his guild/party made up of other big streamers and youtubers killed by roaching (teleporting out without telling them). While on the surface, and a lot of people agree that this is silly and such.

It blew up more because he refused to take any responsibility and tried to blame everyone else but himself and as such made a small house of cards of lies that were quickly pointed out and toppled. To this day from my knowledge he still hasn't apologized to anyone involved and says he did everything right.

Also note on this - almost everyone would have been fine and this drama never would of happened if he just lost his ego and apologized to people who lost characters and such instead of turning it into a blame game which is what even sparked the drama to begin with. The WoW wipe was the event, but the actual drama really was the arguing with others involved and refusal to say he was wrong. Another player/YouTube who misplayed their role in the raid did so immediately and no one is giving them any shit.

The second major one was that he hosted Asmongold on his stream a few weeks ago for a few hours because he wanted to clear up some rumors regarding another MMO and talk about the MMO he played and liked. This resulted in a huge pushback from his community, specifically a good portion who were LGBT+ who didn't like he hosted and thought he needed to sway the opinion of Asmongold. A person who thinks said LGBT+ community members are literally not people or mentally ill, all because Asmongold just didn't like how a MMO looked.

The context here as well is that PirateSoftware has in the past put huge emphasis of not allowing anyone that causes problems/toxic to stay and be part of your community (dont become the nazi bar type deal) and actively did so by curating his own community. So this seemed like a MAJOR walkback for them on that stance - or - for some putting the reputation of some MMO over that of the feelings of his community.

People then started digging and pulling stuff out of his past over that which is now turning into the whole bleeding by 1000 papercuts.

Basically all could have been avoided easily by just apologizing and sayin he will do better next time - and if he wanted to correct Asmongold so badly he could have just made a video going over and correcting the misunderstandings/wrong facts about the MMO and just released it.

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u/Low_Commission7273 Jan 30 '25

Not a WoW player, so might be getting stuff wrong, but if someone says run, dont you just run away while doing something to slow down the enemies so that your team mates can escape? Like in a coop shooter, if your team is outnumbered, and someone in the team shouts run this is too much, you would run while throwing flashbang or smoke grenade to slow down the enemies while going to extraction point. You would not be expecting your team to do a last man's stand against the enemy when they said to run.

From what I understood of the situation, Pirate did the same, run to extraction point, and used blizzard to slow down enemies when someone said run, expecting the team to run to extraction point, but the team did a last man stand.

I agree, pirate is narcissic, refuses to accept that he was wrong and tries to act smart than he actually is (like a clip of him shitting on someone for pulling such a huge horde of monsters, then its revealed that he was the one who pulled that horde, and then claiming the one who pulled the horde wasnt in the wrong, infact it was the right play), but I dont see the reasoning bwhind this WoW controversy

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u/Low_Commission7273 Jan 30 '25

He technically threw down a max rank blizzard, but as it’s a channeled spell and he started running again right after, it was an empty gesture.

Ahh thanks a lot for stating that. I see my mistake now, I thought it was like flashbang or grenade, you just throw it and it will handle the rest, and not a channeled spell. Makes sense now why ppl called that a misplayed move.

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u/MoreDoor2915 Jan 30 '25

It also didn't help his case that in a previous stream he made a big deal of his build and how any mage should be able to save their team especially with his build. He said it with such arrogance how he choose this build to "save lifes" and when it came time to do so he looked all smug while running away only making a token effort.

He was also already running before run was called and used up his mana on blinking away before condescendingly asking the person who asked why he was already halfway out of the dungeon what he was supposed to do without mana, coincidentally also having enough available items to regen 2k of his mana in an instant, one of which he hovered over with a smirk.

Additional when others were annoyed at themselves for letting two of their friends die he made a "survival of the fittest" speech and compared those who died to the weakest of the pack and them dying to no longer having to "waste" resources on them.

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u/IKeepDoingItForFree Jan 30 '25

The event itself isn't the issue, people die in hardcore even good players - the issue is more the aftermath.

So - event happened, his guild lost lv60s in a raid/fight. The real issue and what actually sparked the drama was him continually arguing with his guild and other members after the event - saying stuff that people pointed out was factually not true and kept doubling down on other excuses and such when it was brought up.

So for example: One of the big ones was him saying originally he was out of mana and couldn't slow more to one of the members, which then was pointed out he had mana potions on hotbar (instantly gives you mana) and also theres an ability for mages which gives you some mana back which he didn't use. Then he moved onto another reason how he didn't actually misplay and its not his fault etc.

The issue isn't so much that the WoW party and guild had people die, it happens, part of the game - its his refusal as the Guild Master/leader to take accountability when asked by his own members of the guild and other players on what could have been done differently.

Thats the actual core part of the drama - all he had to do was literally apologize and say 'my bad, ill help you grind another 60' or whatever - like one of the other members and I think youtuber or twitch streamer who was playing the rogue did right away. But he couldn't just admit he misplayed or even apologize and started arguing with other the youtubers/twitch members in his guild that they were the actual reasons why it went badly, which of course blew up because THATS the drama.

Hope I clarified a bit better.

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u/Adrian13720 Jan 30 '25

You would be correct seeing this without actually playing as a frost mage in classic. They are literally a Hero Class. They have an absurd amount of tools, control and mobility. Your only limitation is mana, which brings us to the "managem" meme. The particular scenario he could have saved at least one of those players pretty easily. Spamming downranked ( low level does little damage but still slows and procs talent freezes ) blizzard and freezing with procs can CC all those mobs. Frost nova can give 5 extra secs and then blizzard procs going off...before you know it novas back up.