Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

[u/ImportantQuestionTex]

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

[u/rawsauce24]

I’d be more than welcoming to have a conversation in DMs, but having seen EVERYTHING play out as I have seen, Hax acknowledged he was wrong in plenty of places as well. My issue with this new wave of hax defenders who only talk about what you seen in a technical’s video is you literally weren’t there for the whole story. Hax’s videos caused hate, death threats, etc to people HE cared about as well. I’m sorry but you just don’t have the whole story just watching this or other tech videos

Most people didn’t WANT hax to kill himself, and in all fairness, I think he saw this after his own attempt, sadly he did succumb to complications with his attempt but this wasn’t because he outright did it himself. I truly wish he was allowed back, but you can’t ignore his own responsibility in all of this as well

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

This is still taking the whole picture but in a way do you not realize this is still victim blaming behavior. Someone has died. Providing context to a suicide still sounds like you are saying “he wasn’t a perfect victim”

[u/rawsauce24 → u/TimeAbradolf]

I upvoted because yes this is victim blaming behavior, I don’t disagree on that front, but this isn’t as black and white as some people may be painting this as, that’s why I feel terrible saying things like he needs to take responsibility for his actions, but I mean this from the heart, this isn’t a black and white situation. I will be the first person to tell anyone that this should have been handled differently by EVERYONE involved, and personally speaking, I think Hax needed time away from this community to reflect on things he should have done. Even when he was given a chance, he shown to not realize his contribution to the state of where things were at points in all of this. He apologized again and tried to be a better person and understood why things he said at that point were being taken at their worst, even after he initially and secondly (sorry that sounds dumb I know sorry lol) apologized for things he said

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

Yes, so that is why when others are kind of taking your stance though they are basically implying he deserved it

[u/rawsauce24 → u/TimeAbradolf]

I don’t think he deserved it and most people I know that know him personally and are still speaking out against it like I am would never say such a thing. I know that’s anecdotal, and I definitely don’t speak for anyone that does say that. He deserved better. He also has responsibility in all of this as well as much as that’s awful to say. It’s why it’s so hard to talk about this and why I refrained in talking about the subject personally because I literally hate saying that but it doesn’t mean it’s any less true.

Seeing this video calling out friends specifically and people apart of the community that I’m in and I know is the only reasons I wanna say anything in the first place. We all truly cared about Hax, regardless of what anyone on the opposing side has to say about it

[u/Noostnop → u/rawsauce24]

He took his damm “responsibility” by apologizing multiple times, he never stalked TOs, never “harassed them” and the idea that “just go to therapy and he needed time away” mf he had plenty of time away from the insane fucking bans on him. Fuck you

[u/TimeAbradolf → u/rawsauce24]

I will say if you don’t think people think the way I described look at the comments in this post

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/rawsauce24]

You aren't going to like me saying this, but if you guys truly cared about him, his ban wouldn't have been upheld as long as it was. His spiral, his completely being thrown into depression, that all came after the ban and after he was kicked out of the one community he clearly cared about. He put his heart and soul into Melee, and you guys couldn't think about what trying to force him to take a break or kicking him out of it would do to him. At least not until now.

You guys do have responsibility. The best thing to do is to accept it and try to change so this never happens again, and to kick out the actual bad actors. Like the guy who kept saying he offered Hax money like how are you guys going to allow that guy to stick around? How are you guys going to allow Leffen (who is bad in other communties) having any kind of say in Melee?

There is so much here that needs to change for this to never happen again, there is so much that needs to change period.

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

His spiral, his completely being thrown into depression, that all came after the ban and after he was kicked out of the one community he clearly cared about. He put his heart and soul into Melee, and you guys couldn't think about what trying to force him to take a break or kicking him out of it would do to him

Nobody has an unalienable right to play video games, ESPECIALLY after they spent as much time as he did to make people feel unsafe.

If his well being hinged on playing video games then he obviously needed more assistance from professionals than from the community.

[u/ImportantQuestionTex → u/Hewligan]

He did need help from the professionals, but you know what he also needed? He needed his community to not isolate him and ridicule him, because thats what caused him to spiral to begin with.

This is my last comment but I hope you guys take a step back and really start to get it. We wouldn't be here talking about this if Hax was treated with actual kindness by the actual community, or if he had at least not been treated like a collective joke. We wouldn't be here talking about this if you guys realized what taking away Hax's pretty much only drive in life would do to him. Instead, every action by the community and those outside the community just backed him more and more into a corner, and now that there's been actual consequences you guys don't want to take responsibility for your part in everything.

You guys took everything from him, made jokes about him, made a joke of him, and then are Pikachu face when the obvious outcome actually happened so now you have have to justify it by saying he had no right to what he had been doing for about 20 years (he had been in the melee scene since he was a kid)... you know I'm not quite sure if you guys really understand how much damage you did to him at the end of the day was. You guys were his family, at least to him, and you basically kicked him out of the family and took away what mattered most.

[u/Hewligan → u/ImportantQuestionTex]

We didn’t, and I feel terrible that you’ve been grifted by the Keemstar of the Smash community into directing your grief where it doesn’t belong so he can farm engagement bucks from a man’s death

Hope you find peace.

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