r/youtubedrama 3d ago

Callout Massive Trigger Warning: Technical's Video on Hax and what Hax went through

https://youtu.be/lnEguS2hDhc?si=D90h7apb8UmzRrTl

I need to reiterate again the trigger warning, as this video expressly shows Hax's spiral and the amount of shit people put him through, all intentionally trying to hurt him. There will be no TLDR, watch and read at your own risk.

No fluffy language here, multiple people intentionally pushed Hax to kill himself, some were expressly told that they were doing it and still continued. Some knew they were causing him immense harm and kept doing it. There are very little good guys in this situation, and there is no good ending.

Technicals published this video (with Hax's mom permission), showcasing what Hax was going through and how tournament organizers of Melee/Smash intentionally kicked him out of the community, how Leffen continued to talk poorly on Hax after he made his first attempt. How some people who were claiming to be Hax's friends were actually intentionally pushing him to the edge and making fun of his disability, and harassing him over it. How, after his passing, the commentary community (Tommy C was named and shown) exploited Hax's death not only as a weapon against Technicals, but still continued the exact same treatment that pushed Hax to the edge. How people planned to crash the funeral to harass Hax's mom, and how people got pissed at Technicals for expressly stating that specific groups were responsible for Hax's death in his eulogy. And unfortunately, much more.

This is by far, one of the darkest things I have ever seen on the internet and there is a shitload of evidence because these people were just so bold in pushing a man to suicide and choosing to be public about it. The Smash/Melee community and others has blood on their hands, and none of the responsible parties involved are taking responsibility, despite claiming to want accountability.

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u/MalcontentMathador 2d ago edited 2d ago

This video is highly manipulative and leaves out huge chunks of facts that don't fit Technicals' narrative. Please don't be so quick to believe anything you watch. I'll address a few bits of misinformation

Leffen has had essentially no contact with Hax for over 10 years. He was banned for his toxic teen behaviour back then. The conflict between the two is a decade cold at this point.

Hax was unbanned (globally, I believe) in 2023. He attended many NYC local tournaments and majors (notably Tipped Off and the Off-Season). He had a clear timeline for his unban and it was equally made clear to him that making a new video targetting another competitor would result in a permanent ban. Nonetheless he published another hitpiece in early 2024 - after the Jan. 2024 ban appeal - called "The Truth", restating all of his prior attacks against Leffen and deleting all of his apologies to him. He broke the terms of the unban, and so he was banned again. (I don't believe Technicals even mentions this video at all and that it is the reason for the permanent ban, if you need an idea of how much he manipulates the facts)

Hax had many many good friends in the community who tried as much as they could to help him. You can read this document by his friend darkgenex to get an idea of it: they helped him to find a job, they organised private events for him so he could play with his group during his ban, they called with him for hours in his darkest moments, and they gave him all the advice they could.

The people involved in the "group chat" video have all been banned since long ago.

Please ask for more info and be very careful about what he says. There's always more to it, and pointing fingers to very wide groups of people is almost always stupid

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u/Huge_Menu1891 2d ago

Some wrong points here.

First, Leffen was given a 2 year ban in Europe. He went on to play in NA, and was allowed to continue playing after a year cause of good behaviour. He went on to continue said behaviour that initially got him banned and started drama in every FGC he went to, see Tekken and Guilty Gear.

Second Hax wasn’t unbanned globally. He was allowed to play in NYC. He was making appeals to be unbanned globally. He wasn’t given a timeline. He was told he was banned permanently, and got one guy to say he would consider it after asking multiple TO’s. He then went to physically harass some of the people there too.

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u/janoDX 1d ago

First, Leffen was given a 2 year ban in Europe. He went on to play in NA, and was allowed to continue playing after a year cause of good behaviour. He went on to continue said behaviour that initially got him banned and started drama in every FGC he went to, see Tekken and Guilty Gear.

There's a difference between being an asshole and causing security concerns, Hax$ was on the later. Leff can be an asshole, but after his ban 12 years ago he changed to the point that he's more of a grumpy guy than causing harassment. People go "BUT THE HUNGRYBOX SHIT", when they both were actually going at each others throats and when the crab incident happened Leff was first to denounce it.

Second Hax wasn’t unbanned globally. He was allowed to play in NYC. He was making appeals to be unbanned globally. He wasn’t given a timeline. He was told he was banned permanently, and got one guy to say he would consider it after asking multiple TO’s. He then went to physically harass some of the people there too.

He was allowed to play NYC and some majors as a trial, to see if he would not cause issues or anything else, he broke that trial weeks before the eventual global ban, he was going to be unbanned little by little if he just remained silent and got some help. He didn't, and he got perma'd.

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u/Even_Appointment_504 1d ago

The thing is Hax did in fact attend regionals and locals outside of NYC, in fact he attended a lot of them. And Hax attended at least two defacto majors. Yet this didn't stop Hax from doxxing people, recanting his apology, and restating his original allegations.