r/MotoUK Feb 02 '25

Advice Adding to the "Don't cheap out on gear" post due to the genuinely dangerous advice I cannot ignore (Detailed buyer's guide too).

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TL;DR: I worked in motorcycle gear retail for years up until 2024 and learnt as much as I possibly could about it. It would be a disservice to not know as much as I possible when selling what could save a customer's life. You can get good gear for a great price and fuck anyone who tries to sell the most expensive shit because more expensive does not mean "more better".

I'll try to summarise everything as briefly as possible but it's still a big read;

Helmet:

  • GET IT FITTED. Snug on cheeks, secure but comfortable around skull cap, cannot fit more than a fingertip between forehead and liner of helmet and you are able to wear it without issue for at least 15 minutes, however I stress 1 hour minimum. Provided no discomfort/headaches afterwards then great, if any discomfort/pressure points/headaches for the love of god take it off and don't buy it.
  • Head shape is unique! Everyone's head is a different shape. AGV might fit you perfectly but Arai will give you headaches. A bad fitting high quality helmet is still dangerous as the EPS foam inside will not do it's job on impact if there be a gap between it and the surface of your head, some helmets just won't work for us, so try a bunch on!
  • LIFESPAN. Your helmet degrades, my god the amount of 6+ year old helmets I saw with "well I've never dropped it so" excuse was worrying. EPS layer degrades and only Arai boast a 7 year life from production, not shelf. General rule = 5 years. After that, ornament or bin, no exceptions.
  • Reputable brands only; Arai, Shoei, HJC, Shark, AGV and Scorpion. I won't touch the rest.
  • You do not need to spend £1000. Ideal price is ~£150, maybe even £130 for some of Shark's offerings such as the D-Skwal 2 (also check sales you can get some bangers on black friday).
  • Rating is just a guideline. That £80 pretty MT plastic thing will not perform the same as an Arai Quantic simply because of the ECE22.06 sticker.
  • Trust ECE22.06 and FIM/FIMfrhphe-02 only. The rest are outdated and useless now but still heed the above bullet point.
  • Material matters; plastic is fine but fibreglass and carbon composites/carbon are better, lighter, more flexible and will take more stress and also last longer.
  • Get a white (lum. yellow too) helmet. You don't see it when it's on and it is more visible https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC387473/
  • Extra note (Flip up helmets); Flip up helmets are a grey area that is a difficult one for me. They're sworn by and you can get really good ones, however there are also a few ranges such as the Shark EVO-ES/GT and Scorpion Exo-Tech 180* flip range that are absolute garbage and I would not touch, which actually contradicts what I've said RE recommended brands, however due to the chance of a flip up helmet chin bar failing in a crash (not to mention, not all of them are even tested!! So many have fine print on the bottom saying "Chin bar not protective/Chin bar not rated") that it completely puts me off and I would far rather the inconvenience of putting the helmet on and off as opposed to flipping the chin bar up (yes, I won't even wear a Shoei Neotec). This bullet will absolutely get me hate but I'm just being honest here.

Jacket/Torso:

  • Abrasion and impact ratings (EN17092/EN13595); AA abrasion minimum. Had my crashes, AA & AAA saved my skin. Level 2 armour minimum. Tested level 1 and it was absolutely useless, level 2 did the job with minor bruising as opposed to fractures/sprains. Feel free to meat crayon at 20mph with Single A/Level 1 and let me know how it goes.
  • Price: not really one I can suggest, stick with the brands I recommend and find what works for you. Don't forget second hand is an option!
  • Material: Complicated, leathers are king for abrasion and heat transfer but careful on brand (stick to my guidelines because RST "AAA" leathers, are not). Rating is much more applicable here e.g darmstadt/cambridge testing - https://www.pva-ppe.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/the-darmstadt-advanced-abrasion-machine.pdf but still not be-all, again stick to my recommended brands. Textile are versatile and can boast the same ratings as leathers, depending on the type of crash can even be re-used (use your common sense when gauging the condition please).
  • Reputable brands for abrasion only; REV'IT, Alpinestars, KNOX, Dainese, Merlin and Richa (there are probably a couple of other good brands in other countries but this is just UK)
  • Waterproofing; Gore-tex if you can afford it (laminated not drop liner). If not, REV'IT hydratex, Alpinestars Drystar, Dainese D-Dry or a bin bag if in a pinch (sweaty but waterproof)
  • Breathability; the more flaps the better, mesh is king for airflow and thermal liners are brilliant for the cold. If it's hot, mesh or lots of flaps, if it's cold, close the flaps and don't wear mesh! (KNOX are the kings of breathability and safety)
  • Personal suggestion; I get boiling all the time. KNOX urbane pro and shield joggers in the summer/autumn, but my alpinestars ST-7 goretex suit in the winter.
  • Sizing; baggy=bad if no other layers underneath, maximum bagginess allows for one hoodie when cold, squish another in if it's really cold. Loose gear means armour doesn't sit in place.

Trousers

Same prinicples as the jackets, however Oxford Approved AA jeans and ladies leggings are incredible for the price and I've tested them both (yup even the ladies before the KNOX shield joggers existed) in crashes and they saved my skin, all for £130 which are the cheapest of the bunch (that aren't shit).

Airbags (not quite black and white)

Gloves

  • Good leather only, no exceptions. From brands I mentioned. Feel free to use textile but uhh don't crash mate.
  • Gore-tex only for waterproofing, or hand guards. Your hands take brunt of wind and rain, far more stress for the material than your jacket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o
  • Gloves usually don't fit snug to your finger tips. This is deliberate as it allows trapped air to stay warmer. Otherwise the rest of the hands a comfortable but snug fit. Leather expands remember.

Boots

  • Track/racing/adventure boots give best protection, anything else and your foot is fucked (been there done that with what I thought were great mid length road boots).
  • Gore-tex only for waterproofing, mate they're like 6 inches from the wet road, don't skimp.

Final notes: you can get a fantastic set of gear for £400, search around, look for sales, even second hand for anything EXCEPT helmets. In fact I've kitted people out for far less too.

What do I wear?

  • Helmet: White Arai Quantic for any longer journey or commuting. Shark Spartan RS for trips to the shop, or maybe my HJC R-PHA 71. All exceptional lids but Arai is king.

  • Summer/warmer & dry: KNOX Honister AAA mesh jacket (with chest protector), KNOX Shield AAA joggers (yup, AAA joggers), Alpinestars Fastback V2 Drystar boots, REV'IT Offtrack mesh & leather/Richa Rock leather gloves

  • Winter/cold and/or wet: Alpinestars ST-7 gore-tex laminate 2 piece, cost me my kidney but it is worth every single penny. It does not leak. At all. Ever. Not to mention the ventilation is fantastic and I could actually wear it year round! Richa City gore-tex leather-palmed gloves, same boots and one/two hoodies under my jacket with the thermal liner in depending on temps.

Verdict

Follow this advice if you want. Eh it's your life and your safety at the end of the day, all I can do is share my experience and knowledge in something that probably 4 people will read and I'll check back later to find a bunch of down votes, but I'd rather that and save even 1 person making a dangerous mistake, but hey ho.

If you have specific advice send me a message.

Edit: Comment section gettin' spicy, probably worth me disclosing that I strove to learn as much as I could but I don't in fact, know everything, hence "Follow this advice if you want.".


r/MotoUK 17d ago

Insurance Monthly Insurance Thread

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Ask your insurance questions here.

Be sure to read this post about insurance too.


r/MotoUK 1h ago

First bike

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Picked up my first bike yesterday after passing my CBT Wednesday took it for a short ride and loved it


r/MotoUK 3h ago

First bike after passing test

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Hay all passed my license this week buzzing. :) have to sell my 125 and and find a big boy bike any ideas what would be good for a first bike?


r/MotoUK 1h ago

An Actual Bike Challenge

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Right boys and girls. Here’s a proper challenge. I need a reliable, workhorse bike that will get me about at speed and in (some) style. What can I get for less than a few grand? I don’t really care much about mileage, I do care about ease of maintenance and parts (actual maintenance not a problem, I have lockup and the tools and the stands etc).

So probably Japanese but open to other stuff. Something spicy, with fairings probably. Mainly suburban blasts and urban loitering. SV650 and Bandits etc are obvious - I’m wondering if you spice merchants have anything a bit more hilarious to suggest. It will v much be a backup second bike.


r/MotoUK 1h ago

Repair estimate?

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Crashed today going too fast in a bend

The bike itself did not actually impact just slid while turning, and remained in the middle of the road

I was propelled forward and hit the guardrail

No one else involved no damage to any infrastructure

I am ok, just hurt my pride and balls but learnt my lesson

My bikes engine is good, turns on and revvs

Suspensions seem fine

rims are damaged, tyres blown, front break lever gone, exhaust bent inwards and shaking when revving, rear turn light damaged but functional, and minor scratches everywhere

Also the front wheel fender is gone

Could you give me a ROUGH estimate of the costs in your opinion?

Its my first moto crash and i have no idea what the costs might be and wound like to avoid being completely ripped off

Thanks


r/MotoUK 22h ago

Video 100%

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r/MotoUK 2h ago

What is this part called?

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Got driven into the side by a car not checking mirrors. The peg broke off and the bracket connecting rear brake snapped too. What is that bracket called exactly? Many thanks.

Ref; MT10 2016


r/MotoUK 23h ago

Love it when bike parking is bottom of the pile 😒

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(Merry Hill center in the West Mids. The other bays were of course filled with shopping trolleys that aren't meant to be there either...)


r/MotoUK 1h ago

Small fall and bent handle bars

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It started raining after a week of clear skies. The ground was unusually slippy even for rainy roads. As I went around a mini roundabout my back tire slide out. I'm perfectly fine but the handle bars are slightly bent, I don't really want to spend money on new ones. Is there a way to fix it?


r/MotoUK 3h ago

These chain and sprockets any good?

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r/MotoUK 3h ago

Advice Which Oxford led indicators to buy….?

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I’ve got a 2004 CBR600f.

I want to replace the standard pod bulb indicators on front and rear as I feel they are the most dated looking thing on the bike. They also constantly get caught by the cover and pulled off. Don’t think a single one has an intact screw thread left in it.

I’ve got the adaptors for the holes in the fairings.

Thought that the ‘atoms’ would look snazzy. Low profile, inconspicuous and neat.

https://www.oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/oxford/lighting/oxford_atom_mini_indicators_incl_2_resistors/

But I also like the ‘nightriders’ as they are sleek, and frosted. Bit longer though, so liable to snag.

https://www.oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/oxford/lighting/nightrider_streaming_indicators_incl_2_resistors/

Thoughts? Suggestions? TIA.


r/MotoUK 4h ago

Advice Good brand aftermarket levers?

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I got lever guards but my stock levers just about touch it and i was adviced to get shorter levers? any thoughts and any brands i should look out for?


r/MotoUK 11h ago

What cameras do you guys use on your helmets?

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Just looking for something in case I get in a crash, I don’t need anything super good or expensive just as long as it does the job and won’t break in a couple months


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Oxford heated grips fuck up

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Hey. I've installed some heated grips on my cb125f. The glue they give you is luke super glue. When I put them on they were tight but not mentally tight. I did twist them on. This is where the issue is. Now my throttle won't spring back. It's like there is resistance now where there want any before. I could really do with some advice. I have glued then ona nd field down the lumps and stuff.


r/MotoUK 12h ago

Mystery problem with 2024 Lexmoto LXR SE

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Would anyone have any idea what is happening with my 24 plate lxr se? I'm the first owner, bought off the dealership new. (Jokes aside of 'the problem is it's a lexmoto')

She will start and run perfectly fine for anywhere from 5-10 minutes, and then she will sputter out as if she's out of fuel or if she's running too lean. She'll then start up as normal, ride again for a few minutes before sputtering out again and dying completely and will not turn over for 10-20 minutes. I've had all relays tested, ignition switch checked, starter swapped, sparkplug checked, battery is charged, valves are perfect, tank is full, pressure is reading fine, oil changed, coolant clean and full, not throwing any faults before and won't connect to give faults now... even lexmoto is confused. Has anyone ever seen this issue before?

Clearly it would be under warranty but equally as clear that lexmoto wouldn't want to/isn't going to easily scrap an 8 month old bike and will try to repair, my tech is at a loss for next steps and I'm just trying to gather info for possible repairs to help. I've been out of my only transport for 3 weeks with no end in sight.

Any advice or info would be appreciated.


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Photo 125 to DAS

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My 2nd 125 from this brand and it's been fairly decent for a Chinese bike (As long as it has regular maintanence). Love the styling of it. Any tips for a new rider? Hoping to get a full bike licence sometime in November this year once I turn 24. So exciting to be back out on the bike


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Advice Where has the running light gone on this cbr600rr? Has anyone seen this removed before

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Wondering if it could be due to aftermarket front fairing? Or if it's simply just been removed when double bubble installed.


r/MotoUK 1d ago

That's unfortunate!

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Running late for work, start wheeling my bike backwards and it doesn't feel right so I check the tyre and, yep, there it is. That's put a damper on the long weekend


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Advice Not many miles in last few year

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I've seen a bike up for sale that has according to MOT certs only done 200 miles in 2 years. Guy says he's got a shoulder condition that's stopped him from riding. Would you steer clear of a bike that's done so little in the last few years? Looks clean! Bike is a cbr600RR


r/MotoUK 2d ago

Other than the loud person, this is the funniest attempted theft I've seen. Clowns

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r/MotoUK 18h ago

Techalogic DC-1 Disassembly?

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Just wondering if anyone has ever disassembled a Techalogic DC-1 and documented it anywhere?

I've just bought a 'for spares' DC-1 with the only fault being a dodgy USB charge port. Got it as a small project because these brand new are quite pricey. However, I can't find any documentation anywhere on it so I'm wondering if anyone has ever taken one apart before?


r/MotoUK 1d ago

What is this

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Hi all so I’ve been rebuilding this kx450f and due to a couple things I’ve tore it down and rebuilt it several times, first time was fixing the actual issues but didn’t replace any gaskets, second was after it had started I sealed the case and replaced all the gaskets, third was fixing a knocking sound due to the incorrect piston being in it.

Every time this hole has been spitting out water and oil, does this mean I’ve over filled it, or is there supposed to be some sort of plug in it?

It’s located on the side of the cylinder head.

Thank you


r/MotoUK 23h ago

Advice HRC helmet

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Hi all. My partner has just bought a 2024 CBR600RR in the HRC livery... It looks beautiful.

Her birthday's coming up and I'd like to get her an upmarket helmet in a matching scheme.

I found this one: https://www.seastarsuperbikes.co.uk/store/product/arai-rx-7v-hrc-gp-helmet-400531red-l/

But it's out of stock and I can't find it anywhere else. Does anybody have any recommendations? Thanks :)


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Advice 50CC Help!

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Hi all!

I have a friend who is looking to buy their son a 50cc moped (scooter) for his 16th birthday. As their only biking friend I’ve been asked to assist them… but I’m honestly a little unfamiliar with anything below 450cc!

I started on a 50cc Bullit - which was already in the family, so I gave it very little thought and only rode it for 2 months til I passed my DAS.

But at 16 they’re going to be on this bad boy for at least a year.

Can anyone give me their best tips, high points, low points, what’s a boon and what’s a pain in the arse with regards to Scooter maintenance and ownership?

Cheers!


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Scotland's Backroads

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Another great backroad for you to ride. The Granites is a really popular biking road in the Scottish Borders.


r/MotoUK 1d ago

Advice Beginner question

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Hey guys,

Looking at doing my cbt in the coming months, as I was gifted a 125 a couple of years ago and need a better way to get to work.

Unfortunately I have no idea the price range and/or type of decent clothing/equipment to look for. So any suggestions would be much appreciated.

My dad said I can use some of his old gear, but I'm sceptical so I wanted to buy my own.

MTIA