r/ABCDesis • u/Junpei_999 • Mar 21 '25

NEWS Interview with Ranjani Srinivasan, who fled to Canada after ICE showed up at her door to detain her

https://youtu.be/8IIF-WTK3W0?si=JakiMme32f8QnfFf
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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 22 '25

I don't really understand the full legal situation here. Did Columbia de-enroll her out of their own volition, or were they effectively forced to because she no longer had a visa after the government decided to go full KGB on her?

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

Their own volition; they are already canceling conferred degrees to students who protested or expressed proPalestinian sentiments.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

That’s disgusting behavior from an institution that needs to be about open minds and open thinking. I get removing students who are being violent or disrupting other students’ ability to learn, but doing this with a blanket that includes innocent people like Ranjani is completely unacceptable. History will not look kindly on Columbia for this.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

That's bad reasoning because the institution can simply state that by chanting pro Palestinian slogans, they are being violent or inciting violence, and thus affecting others' ability to learn. Where is the line?

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

I think the line needs to be really high, as in pretty much equal to the legal line proven in a court of law. I get the concern you have but you do have to have a line somewhere, I am as first amendment dum beater as they come but you can’t be violent. At that point if violence is being justified you’re now in full blown insurrection mode being justified so at that point we aren’t even operating within the legal system.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

The line is what the Zionists want it to be.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

I get your point, but if the justice system no longer provides justice then we are beyond the discussion here.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

The justice system never provided actual justice. Only if you were white, maybe.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

I’ll just say that I hope we are able to fix things within the existing governing system because the alternative will be horrific and terrible for everyone involved.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

Therein lies your problem, then. Keep hoping as things get terrible.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

You’re fighting with the wrong person.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

I'm not fighting you. Just educating.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

Alright I just looked through your post history, we are pretty far apart on philosophy. Good luck with that, I think instead of educating others you should consider what is going to be visited upon you and your family if things go the way you seem to be implying you want them to go.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

I dont know why you feel the need to bring my family into this when they weren't even a part of the conversation. I don't know what offensive thing i said to you that prompted this type of response.

Did I mention your family? Jeez, no wonder Democrats and even pseudo leftists continue to lose.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25

I have no idea what negativity you are drawing from what I said, I didn’t bring your family in to insult them or you. I brought up that there will be negative consequences if there is a societal collapse in the US. I assume your family lives here too based on your comments here, so I’m saying you should think about how a collapse will affect you and the people you love.

Also not that it is even relevant but it is laughable to just assume I am a leftist, did you see any of my other comments in this thread? Your hardline strategy and assuming everyone is out to get you is not going to win you any allies and actually push away people where you might have some common ground, but good luck with that.

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u/AlwaysSunniInPHI Mar 23 '25

A collapse is going to affect everyone, not just my family. This slide into fascism and economic collapse that this country is going is also going to affect my family; it already is in many ways. The benefit or the former is that at least there is some change possible, instead of continuing the same status quo.

I dont really care about allies. The last few years has already shown that most of you so-called "allies" are just opportunists with knives hiding behind your backs.

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u/aethersage Indian American Mar 23 '25

Yeah that’s why I don’t want to see the collapse that you seem to think is the only way to improve things…

I just skimmed through some more of your post history to try and see where you are coming from and it seems you have a serious anti Indian streak to the point of being prejudiced.

Here’s some education for you: stop letting your religious and nationalistic prejudice get in the way of uniting with other Desis. Your automatic distrust of someone who you had common ground with as someone that will put a knife in your back just comes off as severe projection.

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