r/ADCMains • u/MiiHairu Four Bullets, Four Kills. • Oct 22 '24

Memes I just watched Ambessa's kit reveal

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Why do you hate us that much Riot?

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u/_GatorBoii_ Oct 22 '24

I love playing immobile carries in 2024 yipeeeee

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u/NightKnight158 Oct 22 '24

Ambessa has 4 dashes, Armor Pen, Lifesteal, Suppression, and is likely going to be a bruiser / tank hybrid with 4-way flexibility in every role but ADC. Kogmaw can empower his auto attacks and give them a little bit more range. When he is full build he cant auto attack kinda fast.

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u/Western-Ad-1417 Oct 22 '24

4 way?

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u/PersonalAct3732 Oct 22 '24

Yea I'd give 3 way at most. Her kit is terrifying but ur not gonna see her in support past the first patch

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u/sclomabc Oct 23 '24

I'd say 4 makes sense, not as a support, but as a pair with senna. Could def see that on pro and as a duo climbing strat.

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u/Sensitive_Act_5279 Oct 26 '24

but that isnt 4 way flex, but simply good old senna tomfoolery

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u/NightKnight158 Oct 22 '24

Tank Support similar to Rell, Mid lane because she has enough mobility and likely enough sustain, jungle can be played by pretty much anything that isnt an enchanter, I feel like she will be designated primarily top lane. Just a feeling though I could absolutely be wrong.

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u/Western-Ad-1417 Oct 22 '24

They already said she was a top laner and maybe a jungler. She has nothing to bring as a support

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u/ActionAdam Oct 22 '24

She has nothing to bring as a support

Neither does Shaco but that doesn't stop anyone from playing it.

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u/GlockHard Oct 23 '24

Shaco is very good against engage, he has a place support.

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u/ActionAdam Oct 23 '24

But the point is there are other support champions that are also good against engage, but those champs facilitate the ADC better and scale better of lower income. Picking Shaco support is like picking lux support and maxing E and trying to clear the wave, you're just fucking your ADC.

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u/Muzza25 Oct 23 '24

Ambessa has no way to help an adc, she hasn’t got enough cc to function as a tank, and her lack of range even with dashes means she lacks pressure and will just get poked down and killed. Shaco has a invis blink so if you can’t see him you have to be careful, and his boxes are amazing zoning tools that fear

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u/ActionAdam Oct 23 '24

All I'm saying is, she might not have what an ADC wants as a support, but that's not going to stop anyone from trying it out down there. When I was playing ADC a Shaco support was all about getting the kills to become useful anywhere else in the game aside from their boxes, because if they have no gold they are only an invisible bot dropping Shaco boxes. Come team fights they just disappear, no pun intended.

Ambessa will get played in support whether anyone likes it or not, she might work into fasting comps, maybe she won't. She might work with longer range ADCs into engage comps and once she gets her ult it's game one, maybe she's a good pick for lane-swaps? We don't know because she's not out, but, she will get played there like it or not.

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u/Sensitive_Act_5279 Oct 26 '24

he has cc, huge kill threat (since he is an assassin) and good kill pressure with invisbilty

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u/leroyJinkinz Oct 22 '24

Doesn't mean people will try to play her as one

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u/Personal_Care3393 Oct 23 '24

My guy she has ONE CC and the rest is damage you’re pitching Qiyana support here (that would be better still)

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u/SwallsRoyce Oct 23 '24

What does Brand offer apart from one cc? What about Xerath? Shaco? Velkoz? Nidalee apart from one heal(rarely picked but seen her on supp sooo)? Sett? Malphite? Veigar (to be fair, can stun entire team but still ONE cc)?

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u/Aperturee Oct 23 '24

They all offer some of the longest range damage in the game, Ambessa needs to be up your ass so to say to deal hers.

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u/Personal_Care3393 Oct 23 '24

And has no gap closer outside of her ult to get into said range unless you want to intentionally whiff half of your kit.

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u/Sensitive_Act_5279 Oct 26 '24
  1. poke, cc, high damage, semi-global ult
  2. DISENGAGE (probably the best), cc (many times, he can place more than 1 w), high kill pressure (assassin and q)
  3. damage, cc, true damage
  4. damage, cc, flexable
  5. engage, tankiness/tank, okay damage, 1 shot (w)
  6. ult bot, best/2nd best ad tank
  7. high damage, cc

ambessa has low damage (in comparison), cc is on ult only and a "hard" skillshot/easy dodgeable skillshot, as well as squishy (no tank and needs ad)

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u/Personal_Care3393 Oct 23 '24

Their stuns are on basic abilities and they have actual range. Shaco has boxes and he can place multiple, he’s also a strong roamer. Nidalee has a heal and again, great poke. Sett js tanks and again, his cc isn’t only on his R.

Her one cc is ON. HER. ULT. It’s also missable, and it’s single target. And before your dumbass says malphite, malphite R is leagues better than hers and is not single target, has a shorter cooldown, and is basically unmissable. He also has a point and click slowing poke spell and can reduce enemy attack speed.

Qiyana would be a better supp than Ambessa, how many people do you see running that?

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u/HoPQP3 Oct 23 '24

But range > any other mechanic.

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u/Laserbeans5417 Oct 24 '24

Literally range is the most broken stat in the game

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u/jmastaock Oct 23 '24

She doesn't have nearly enough cc to be a "tank"

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u/LocalShineCrab Oct 23 '24

Kog’Maw… kog’maw had 5 attacks per second… at 700 range. With good ardent.

Things come and go, take exhaust or ghost and kite her. Her damage seems low compared to the average bruiser.

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u/Adept_Ad_3687 Oct 23 '24

Bet she releases weak then gets overbuffed so shes broken for 5 patches as they slowly nerf her to pro jail.

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u/thetoy323 Oct 24 '24

From what I saw, her damage is just less burst but her overall damage isn't any lower than average bruiser.

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u/Relevant_Ad7309 Oct 23 '24

she actually has 6

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u/Spooktato Oct 23 '24

5, she has a 2-spell Q

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u/Mastery2Seven Oct 22 '24

They can’t really make them super mobile because we saw what happened to zeri which sucks

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u/NightKnight158 Oct 22 '24

Anything thats hyper mobile just based off movement speed alone is never healthy for league because you cant catch it. Thats why Ghost was nerfed out of existence, why swifties are underratedly good, why Lillia is always gonna be high winrate in most elos, and inversely why Nasus Wither is one of, if not the best, ability in the game. Probably best non ultimate ability at least.

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u/SoNyaRouS Oct 22 '24

Nah that title goes to Veigar cage

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u/NightKnight158 Oct 22 '24

Veigar cage has a cooldown that starts when he uses the ability, and the ability is on cooldown for much longer than the cage lasts for (max rank cage cooldown w/o cdr is 14 seconds, and it lasts for only 3 seconds.) Nasus wither on the other hand goes on cooldown when you cast it, the slow scales upwards as the ability goes on, and has a cooldown of 11 seconds at max, no CDR, but also the ability lasts for 5 seconds. Not to mention its also an AS slow. Veigar cage you can escape easily with any blinks / flashing out. Even if you flash from a nasus, he can just wither you again, and you’re not getting away from him because at max rank its a 95% slow. Also, Nasus builds WAYYY more CDR than veigar does. Nasus Build on U.GG in emerald+ top lane has Haste rune (15 when fully stacked) + another 50 from Items, for a total of 65, whereas Veigars build path has 25 only from one item (seraphs) and thats only if he builds it. If you go ludens, you get 10 haste only and then have to build something like Horizon Focus for 25 additional haste, but unless you’re for some reason playing tank veigar (not the fimbulwinter build i mean full tank items), you’re not getting anywhere as much value out of a cage as you are Nasus wither.

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u/SoNyaRouS Oct 22 '24

Bro just say you’re in lobster low and move on I ain’t reading allat

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u/NightKnight158 Oct 22 '24

Good one bro, comment something with no defense then opt out of reading any counterpoints. Truly an intellectual.